Embracing Laughter and Faith: Mitchell's Battle Against Kidney Cancer

Speaker 1: 0:06

Hello, welcome to another episode of your Facebook cats podcast. We've got all things Bible. I'm shell Too close.

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Unmichael.

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You're spitting. That's the thing, me too. Nobody wants to see that.

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I'm sure everybody would.

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I was gonna black out my tooth too. Sure, there's hello, yeah. So welcome to another episode of the pure faith podcast podcast where we discuss all things Bible. This is my brother Mitchell, okay, and tonight he's gonna be put on a Bible study for us, just not sure what it's gonna be about. So if you haven't done so already, like this video, subscribe to our YouTube channel. I don't know, do whatever you got to do.

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Yeah, to be notified.

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Do you have a little like a twang going on there I talked to truck drivers all day.

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You don't know what you're going to get Truck driver. I love them all. They're all Yep, but you don't know what you're going to get.

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Yeah, I just seem like there's a little bit of twang in there and you've got a hat on and we both have the zone I know right.

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I've been debate on when to wear these. I was going to wear in the church on Sunday. You should have. I might have gotten a little too small. I'm like boy. These are not comfortable.

Speaker 1: 1:39

I am not wearing these to church. What do you sell? The pair I got you I do, and those are Last year, those are. Yeah, I can wear about four layers underneath that I'm gonna warm to the football game when it starts snowing. Hopefully we start our playing football when it snows, but we'll see. But yeah, I'll wear them if it gets too cold out. Okay, so yeah.

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Do you hear a fun story?

Speaker 1: 2:07

Yeah.

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So this past Sunday.

Speaker 1: 2:11

Yeah.

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Paige and I. Well, we came to church, obviously.

Speaker 1: 2:15

Yeah, we heard your kids.

Speaker 2: 2:17

Yeah, everybody Tell them we heard your kids, we went to the church, we went to Greenville.

Speaker 1: 2:24

Oh, I heard the story.

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Where'd you hear from?

Speaker 1: 2:28

I worked out with Paige on Monday.

Speaker 2: 2:29

I don't know. I'm good at seeing what her version of the story.

Speaker 1: 2:34

Okay, okay, tell me the story.

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So we go to Greenville, which is a bigger town not far from us. It's where all the bigger stores are and we got to eat for lunch.

Speaker 1: 2:45

Yes.

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After lunch we're like, and lunch took a lot longer than we anticipated.

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Because they had all three kids.

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Yeah, divide and conquer. So we're like, yes, we're going to have to divide and conquer here so we can get through all of our other tasks and stops, so we can get home Because Matt went to the park Before midnight. Home, so I dropped Paige and our youngest Ephraim off at the grocery store.

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Yep.

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And then I go over to Earl King and me and Zeke and Eli go in to get chicken feed and wood shavings and a couple other things that we needed.

Speaker 1: 3:21

Because he remodeled the chicken barn. Just so you guys know he remodeled the chicken barn.

Speaker 2: 3:25

Yeah, chicken. Well, I didn't really remodel it. I was getting it insulated and winterizing it. Put a better door on it. Yeah, it's just a touch of my heart for chickens.

Speaker 1: 3:38

Yes, yes, so we can have eggs.

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Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:41

Yes, anyhow, so you go into the rural King, the rural King.

Speaker 2: 3:45

One of the rural King. Did you get popcorn? No, I didn't get any popcorn.

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You guys already had lunch. Yep, okay, I gotcha. So you're walking through rural King.

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And well with.

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Zeke and Eli.

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Yeah well, they were crazy, but that's not the funny part.

Speaker 1: 3:58

So we leave rural King, oh, and we go the rural King that I heard.

Speaker 2: 4:04

Are you talking about the lady at the checkout? So yeah, zeke and Eli, they have. We gave them ice cream fritters at lunch.

Speaker 1: 4:14

Oh, so they were a little yeah.

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I check out. They were all over the place and after I got done checking out and I was yelling at the bulls boys the whole time I was checking out. But then we, uh, I kind of got them moving towards the door to leave and the the lady that was running the register may have said good luck, I think the one I need it, as the boys then darted off and I had to go chase them down.

Speaker 1: 4:50

Oh my yikes.

Speaker 2: 4:52

But no, that wasn't even the funny part.

Speaker 1: 4:54

I didn't hear anymore, okay.

Speaker 2: 4:55

I mean that was funny. But so then we go back to the grocery store and we're sitting out in the parking lot waiting for page and Zeke kept saying I got P, I got P, I got P. I'm like, well, I'm not taking both of you all the way into Kroger right Kroger, just to go. P.

Speaker 1: 5:14

Yeah.

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He's like Zeke, can you wait till mom gets back out? And he's like I really got P. I really got P and he offered to get out and P out. Of course he did which, yeah, which. If we're at home, who cares? Yeah, you got P, get out, go P Right. I had to explain to him this is a public area and you can't just whip it out here.

Speaker 2: 5:43

I mean up to a certain point police officer might knock on your door at a certain point it's cute, but he's getting to the point which should probably still be considered cute, but he's starting to get to that point. I'm like no, we can't. We can't just get out and just peel in the place. We sure can, and so. But he was complaining and whining and like I think it's time.

Speaker 1: 6:08

Yeah so.

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I taught Zeke how to get a bottle.

Speaker 1: 6:13

A Gatorade bottle. He's going to do this all the time. He's going to charge me, like now you got a Gatorade model.

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He's going to grab you and say, hey, you got a bottle, so it worked pretty good, except for the fact that I think he was standing on the stroller, so I was still in the front seat, but I was holding the bottle for him because I didn't trust him to do it himself and he may have slipped and in the process a certain seal was broken and I may have got pee on my arm.

Speaker 1: 6:50

Oh.

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But we were able to finish and it was a great success. But then the funny part was that was the funny part. So, then again, we're still waiting for Paige, and at this point, you know Eli was to be like his big brother.

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So then, eli was to pee on the bottle. Oh my gosh.

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Okay, but before I could get Eli out to pee on the bottle because he was trapped in his car seat, paige comes out, so we go. Okay, so we're going to get groceries loaded up. No, no.

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So I get out, I get in the back.

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And we open up the back latch to the car and Zeke's standing there with his bottle of pee in hand and he was like Mom, look, I peed in a bottle way louder than what he needed to because she wasn't that far away. Oh man, zeke, zeke, quiet, and Paige just looks at me with a dead-pan expression.

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Just why.

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And so I had to explain to her Zeke really had to go pee, you know.

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Let me get these groceries honey.

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So I explained it to her and put the groceries away and she's like that is getting thrown away. And then she grabs it to go throw it away. And she's like it's still warm and then she goes. It's just a little bit of a coincidence, he just peed, so she throws it away. And I didn't even think much of it. I'm putting groceries in the car and then I go around to get Eli out Meanwhile, catch a whiff of something and realize that Ephraim had pipped a thing.

Speaker 1: 8:39

Oh my gosh, well Paige takes him all the way back into the store to change his diaper.

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She doesn't change it right in the vehicle, she goes all the way back into the store. So I knew this to say Eli had to pee. Eli had to pee. She threw that bottle away. So I had to find another bottle.

Speaker 1: 8:58

Luckily I found another bottle in her car, in your car.

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No, it was her car. I never would think there was another bottle in my car. Zeke found one. He had one tucked away somewhere in his back seat. So he finds this bottle, he gives it to me and then we're out there again waiting for Paige. So we're sitting there, we're waiting. Well, this time, whenever Paige comes out, zeke's like oh, mom's coming. I'm like okay. As soon as she turns the corner at the end of the aisle where all the cars are, we're like 15, 20 spots back. He is leaning out Eli's window, yelling at the top of his lungs Mom.

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I found another bottle.

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He's like I found another bottle. He's like I found another bottle Across the parking lot. And I couldn't stop him passing out. No, no, he came out and I'm like Zeke, zeke, no, no, quiet, quiet. And again Paige comes up Putting Ephraim in the car and she looks at me, why? And I just happen to tell her there's benefits to having a hose attached.

Speaker 1: 10:10

So far with the story. He is not only Mitchell and the boys sitting in the car very long next time.

Speaker 2: 10:16

I thought it was very efficient, I mean for the first time. Only one little mishap and it was all absorbed by the shirt on my sleeve. I thought it all worked great.

Speaker 1: 10:30

It's a great story.

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Yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:34

Oh boy, they will have that for the rest of their life.

Speaker 2: 10:39

A life skill.

Speaker 1: 10:40

It is a life skill.

Speaker 2: 10:43

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:44

I use that skill a lot when I was deployed. Well, I hate to say it, but I think Dad used that skill quite a bit when he was a truck driver. So it is what it is. So there's benefits. There are benefits. You're exactly right. Oh boy Hilarious.

Speaker 2: 11:02

So I think that's it for the next day. Go to the VA.

Speaker 1: 11:06

Yes, I didn't get to go with you.

Speaker 2: 11:10

I was going to go with you.

Speaker 1: 11:12

You were trying hard.

Speaker 1: 11:14

I knew mom was behind it. Yeah, so mom might have reached out to me like maybe on Wednesday she went to the house, I think I don't know. She came to the house and she was like, hey, mitchell's got a appointment on Monday. He doesn't want me to go with her, he doesn't want me to go with him. I said I don't want to go with them. I'm like, yeah, I'll go with them. She's like I don't think he wants anybody to go. He doesn't want me to go. I'm like I'll go with them, it's fine. So I sent Mitchell a text and he's like why? And I said, oh, I just thought you might like my company. And he's like is mom behind this? I'm like mom who? No, I thought we might get some breakfast and coffee, but then I had to back out because I forgot. Two of my coworkers were out that day and actually I mean good or not good. I would have got breakfast, lunch and possibly dinner if I went along.

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Yeah.

Speaker 1: 12:06

It was a long day.

Speaker 2: 12:08

Long morning. Yeah, well, yeah, because you're back in town by what 1.30 or 2 maybe. I think I was back at work by 1.

Speaker 1: 12:15

OK, yeah.

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So yeah. So at this appointment I found out that I have cancer.

Speaker 1: 12:24

Mitchell has the cancer he called cancer.

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So yeah, I thought we might talk about that for a while.

Speaker 1: 12:30

Yeah. Because I have a lot of tissues just in case, but I feel like I'll be OK.

Speaker 2: 12:36

So the backstory to this, what was it you might have under or heard us talking? Over the past few episodes, I've been going to a lot of appointments at the VA and one of those appointments was an ultrasound for my gallbladder. I've been having some we'll just say intestinal discomfort.

Speaker 1: 13:01

OK, only on occasion.

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And like I don't have really any issues most of the time because I learned what triggers it, right? So if anybody knows like gallbladder symptoms like if you stay away from fatty foods and you know certain things and you feel a little bit better but some people have gallbladder attacks and that could have been one of the symptoms.

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So I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point.

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I don't know, but that was one of the ideas my doctor had was well, let's check your gallbladder just to see if there's anything going on there, and that could be the issue for, or the cause of your issue. So I go there, just routine ultrasound on my side, no big deal. Later on that afternoon, typically when I have test-tree in the VA.

Speaker 1: 13:51

At the VA it takes a little while.

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Well, normally I get the results in a letter by mail.

Speaker 1: 13:58

Okay.

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And it's like, yeah, you're fine, Get over it. So. But after this ultrasound, I get three phone calls that same day from different people. So the first one was just to tell me that they found something that they didn't like, and that's about all they really said about what they found. And she ran me through some questions for an MRI, which I'm like. I just had an MRI like a week or two ago. A week or two ago on a different area.

Speaker 1: 14:34

Yeah.

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So, yeah, you don't say, oh well, I don't really have to ask you all these questions. So I'm like, okay. So then my next phone call was from the people at the MRI and they scheduled me appointment for that next Tuesday morning. So I go to that, sit in there, and it was fun.

Speaker 1: 15:00

Anybody has an MRI knows it's not fun.

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It really doesn't bother me. I kind of find it kind of relaxing until they shot up the contrast stuff in my arm. That wasn't fun, no. But when I was there they asked me what I was getting an MRI on and I was just like my innards. I really don't know.

Speaker 1: 15:22

Doesn't it say on the paperwork? Nobody told me.

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So I just know it's.

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Waste down.

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In here somewhere in my innards area. So while I was in getting the MRI, they actually looked it up to see what they actually need to be looking at. Whenever I came out they told me that they wanted a closer look at my kidneys. I'm like, okay, well, now I know. Well, first I knew they found something, now I know it's my kidneys, but I still don't know what it is.

Speaker 2: 15:50

So I didn't have another appointment again until because, also the day of that ultrasound, my third phone call was with the urologist specialist for that and so. But they set the appointment. So the MRI was Tuesday morning. I didn't have the appointment till that following Monday morning, because they wanted to make sure they had all the images and everything in and time to look at them, even though the people who gave me the MRI told me that it was ordered stat and that they were going to have the images by the end of the day. So I had to be able to start to wait six days for that appointment, of course, which, whatever, whatever, but so for that six days, I'm like, well, there's something wrong with my kidneys. Yep, I did get another phone call, I think the day after the MRI so it's been Wednesday. I got a phone call just to tell me that I was not allowed to miss my appointment on Monday.

Speaker 1: 16:46

Yes, mom told me. That's when mom came right out. That's the day she's like Mitchell got a phone call and said he could not miss his appointment. So she's like we need to go. We need to go with them. Somebody needs to go with them.

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I told you I had Jesus with me.

Speaker 1: 17:01

He did tell me that. He said no need for you to come with me. I got Jesus with me. I'm like I understand, but it's always nice to have somebody else to have coffee with.

Speaker 2: 17:09

And then I wore my I think it's actually the same shirt I wore the church Sunday. My ketchup shirt. I was like, hey, I just want everybody to know where I stand.

Speaker 1: 17:20

Yeah.

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So I'm good. So yeah. So I got that phone call saying I was not allowed to miss that appointment. So then I was like, well, whatever it is, it's serious.

Speaker 1: 17:32

And by this point we all knew that you had all these appointments. You had an ultrasound, you had an MRI, you had a phone call that says you cannot miss an appointment on Monday. So we all were like hmm.

Speaker 2: 17:42

So we knew they found something, Didn't know what how big how extensive, so we didn't know the details. Yeah, and my thinking was, if it was that serious, they would have rescheduled that appointment for Monday to like you need to come in.

Speaker 1: 18:00

Right now yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:01

Yeah, so, but they never changed the appointment. They just said I couldn't miss the appointment.

Speaker 1: 18:04

Right.

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So I'm like well, I'm probably going to be living at least this next week.

Speaker 1: 18:11

Thank you.

Speaker 2: 18:12

You're welcome. So, yeah, I went to the appointment and he said at 99.9% chances of cancer and they know that, based on the size and it is six centimeters, which is 2.4 inches, and if you actually look at on the image, it's like eating, it's like Pac-Man eating my kidney. It's huge.

Speaker 1: 18:33

Yeah, it's just one.

Speaker 2: 18:37

Yeah, it's just my right kidney, my left kidney is perfectly fine and actually my kidney function is perfectly fine.

Speaker 1: 18:41

I know that was one of the questions that I think a lot of you know. Like Don and my, my kids had you know how. But how are his kidneys? Cause we? Jokingly after Mitchell I told me that he had caught the cancer in his kidney. I told him that I couldn't donate one of mine cause it wouldn't fit.

Speaker 2: 19:00

I think you got this backwards because I'm bigger than you.

Speaker 1: 19:06

It's too little, for you it's too little. And then I had it was fit. Yeah, it just went function right. And I said and you don't want, don's, cause it's full of kidney stones.

Speaker 2: 19:17

I said, no, I don't, but I can function just fine. My one good kidney.

Speaker 1: 19:24

Yes.

Speaker 2: 19:26

Where is that going with that?

Speaker 1: 19:27

Yeah, you were talking about the, the size of it.

Speaker 2: 19:30

Oh yeah, it's huge yeah. Huge, but based on the size, based on the shape, as in it was kind of an irregular shape. So there are different types of tumors and stuff that they typically see, especially on kidneys, but this didn't fit any of that criteria. And then the other thing is that in the image they didn't see any kind of fatty tissue or anything like within the tumor. So that also ruled out some of these other ones.

Speaker 1: 19:59

So pretty much the only one left is so they could tell that it wasn't like fluid, like there was no fluid in it or like no.

Speaker 2: 20:05

I guess on certain type of tumors there's like fatty tissue like in it, oh, okay or something, I don't know, and but there's no fattiness in it. So it's like it's not that kind.

Speaker 1: 20:17

He was told there was no fattiness yeah. All I hear was you're skinny.

Speaker 2: 20:21

Thanks, doc, Right so yeah, so he's pretty much Sure, that's what it was.

Speaker 1: 20:32

Yeah, so they're not gonna just because of the fact that you've got two kidneys and one is fully functioning just well. Actually, both are functioning just fine. They decided instead of biopsying it, they're going to just remove it.

Speaker 2: 20:41

They're just gonna remove it because it's covering up so much of my kidney that it would be too much of a risk to try to just take out that portion. It's something about too close to blood vessels. Yeah, and I'm like you're the doctor, I know nothing, I'm like. So whatever you say works for me.

Speaker 1: 21:00

Yeah, just take it. Yeah, just take it yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:02

Like that, one's fine, I'll be fine.

Speaker 1: 21:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:06

I just can't play any contact sports.

Speaker 1: 21:09

Wait, you can't, no. Oh, how are the boys gonna survive?

Speaker 2: 21:14

At first I thought it was funny, Like why would I play contact sports? I'm thinking about like no WrestleMania.

Speaker 1: 21:23

No horse back rides, no bull rides.

Speaker 2: 21:27

I'm fine, don't say, don't have spurs and spur me, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1: 21:32

So you now have a surgery scheduled for December the 13th, which is just a few days prior to Olivia's wedding Yay, so.

Speaker 2: 21:40

Well, I was invited to the wedding anyway.

Speaker 1: 21:42

Well, let's just make sure that everybody knows that it's not that you weren't invited to the wedding, that we are doing a small ceremony with just parents, godparents and grandparents, and since you are not a godparent, that you didn't have to come, and since Noah is actually marrying them, you wouldn't have to do that part either. So otherwise you know you would be there. So, believe me, it was a very hard decision on my part, like I was like no, we gotta invite them, we gotta invite them. Well, now, you wouldn't be able to go anyhow. So it's what.

Speaker 2: 22:10

I'm Well, there's the excuse.

Speaker 1: 22:12

Right yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:13

Sorry, I would love to go, but I just can't.

Speaker 1: 22:16

Yeah, I could probably be in the hospital.

Speaker 2: 22:17

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:18

That's the thing they told me. I could be in the hospital for the seven days.

Speaker 1: 22:21

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:23

But then they told me I was young and healthy. What's that?

Speaker 1: 22:26

look for.

Speaker 2: 22:28

Because I'm young and healthy.

Speaker 1: 22:30

They didn't say you're good looking. They said you were young and healthy.

Speaker 2: 22:34

You don't have to look at the camera. I didn't mean to Just give up yeah. But no, since I am young and healthy, besides the fact that I have cancer, that's, it might only be three or four days that I'm actually in the hospital. But worst case scenario, they told me a week in the hospital and two weeks off work. Most likely three to four days in the hospital, maybe a week off work and then going back to late duty for a while. Yeah, so All right.

Speaker 1: 23:09

So, in stating this that you know, I think that there's you have said it multiple times, I think, to us passing in church or to in your, even in your message when you you filled in here at church, you said that you could see God working in many ways. You know, as, as you all have heard, if you've listened to the podcast where Mitchell talked about his his trip to the ER.

Speaker 1: 23:37

That was not covered by his insurance because it, quote unquote, lapsed, which I still don't get. But you said yeah, you said it's God working and you know, and even in your you know your retirement from the military and you know all the paperwork that had to be processed and all the things that you know, you've been going through, you know that, you, you know everything. It seemed like everything was just a just a stab in the kidney. Can I say that, sure, I like puns.

Speaker 1: 24:07

No, but you know, in, in in all of that, you know it really did. It felt like you know it was just another kick and you know you look at this. And if you wouldn't have gone to the VA to to do some of this, these tests that you were doing, they, like they said, they never would have found it. The only reason they find kidney cancer is for people who come in for something else.

Speaker 2: 24:26

Yes, they said 90% of of tumors they find on kidneys, it's it's found secondary. They're looking at something else and they just happen to see it and Until it's a different stage.

Speaker 1: 24:36

probably, like you know, once you get to a certain stage of it, of course you're going to have different symptoms, I imagine, and you know different ways of knowing that something's going to happen, something's going on with your kidneys. But you didn't have anything wrong with your kidneys.

Speaker 2: 24:50

There was no, there was nothing to indicate that there was any kind of issues with the kidneys.

Speaker 1: 24:57

And and to take a step back. So our grandpa, conch mom sad, had kidney cancer and he had one of his kidneys removed and I told Paige he lived to be a very onery.

Speaker 2: 25:10

I don't know, 86, 80 something.

Speaker 1: 25:13

I'm like, hmm, mitchell gets his onriness from grandpa conch. So I'm going to say that we got. We probably got a few years.

Speaker 2: 25:22

He was on.

Speaker 1: 25:23

He was very onry and mom went in, you know, years ago and they found tumors on her kidney but hers were benign. So you know they just removed hers. But you know, so you know there's a history of it too.

Speaker 2: 25:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:35

But not enough for us to be like hey, can you check me for kidney cancer? Like you, just don't do something like that.

Speaker 2: 25:39

But I didn't even know grandpa had kidney cancer until mom told me and I said I have issues with my kidneys.

Speaker 1: 25:44

Yes, yeah, and and you find that with some things too, you know you, some things just aren't really talked about. You know, when you say you know who had cancer you think of like breast cancer and cervical cancer. And you know lung cancer, because you know we had uncles who had lung cancer. But never once did mom say, oh, grandpa conch had kidney cancer, because he wasn't dying from it, he had one removed, he lived a long, healthy life and there was just no talk about it because he was, he was fine. So yeah, so I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I consider myself blessed.

Speaker 1: 26:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:20

And like I told you and like I told mom which is, I think, one of the reasons why she took it the way she did, was you know and you kind of hinted at it is, this does go along with all the other stuff that's been happening here lately. I do think I mean I see God working in this, with the whole fact of losing our insurance. I kind of gave that story and past episodes I Got cancer, please don't call phone.

Speaker 1: 26:51

We're gonna do that joke, but it's really not funny.

Speaker 2: 26:55

It's not because a lot of people yeah. They hear cancer and we've lost we from cancer.

Speaker 2: 27:00

Yeah, so we realize the, the stress, the the fact that it does scare a lot of people it does but this goes along with what I'm just getting ready to say is I want to use this as a way of showing people that just because you get a Bad diagnosis, your doctor tells you you have cancer, it doesn't mean your life has to end. It doesn't mean that you should just crumble and and give up. And now life goes on and even if I do die from this, I'm okay. I am not scared of death at all. Why? Because I'm enjoying my life. We talked about this and that's actually why I do feel blessed and I do think that this timing is perfect, because we just went through the beatitude, what we talked about having joy. We went through how to be salt and light.

Speaker 1: 28:00

How to.

Speaker 2: 28:05

Especially here, towards the last few episodes, how to like, not your light, but that God's light Jesus is like. Shine off of you to others. To be a beacon for others that's what I want to use this for. So, yeah, is there a way to do that? To be a beacon for others that's what I'm going to use this for. So, yeah, is there a chance that they're doing this surgery and something goes wrong and Basically, the same thing happens to me that happened to our sister, where the cancer metastasizes and goes to different areas of my body and becomes more than the doctors can keep up with and eventually she lost her to your battle with cancer. Could that happen, absolutely? Am I worried about it? I'm not gonna say I'm not worried about it.

Speaker 1: 28:55

You're not worried for?

Speaker 2: 28:56

yourself yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:57

I mean, that's the way I think I would look at it. It's like I'm not. I'm not worried for myself because I know where I'm going, I'm worried for.

Speaker 2: 29:06

I'm worried for everybody.

Speaker 1: 29:08

And my wife and my mom and my sister. For me.

Speaker 2: 29:18

So, yeah, I that is the worst part and actually the hardest person. I the hardest time I had telling somebody was telling Chip.

Speaker 1: 29:28

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2: 29:29

Because, because of Missy and right the history and all that right. I didn't break down when I told you know, I barely got down on that old page right. I didn't break down at all when I told mom or no matter anybody else, but chip it was. It was hard, but that's just because of the history and right the struggles that he went through during oh, that's a light.

Speaker 1: 29:53

Shine on us. Did you see the light? The light came on. We are shining our light. I Didn't cry when you told me I didn't.

Speaker 2: 30:06

I know, but I heard you cry a lot after you hung up with me, don't?

Speaker 1: 30:10

you know you, you weren't there but I didn't. I choked up a couple of times just because, again, you think of everybody else and you know the people I thought about at that time. Of course, you know we're page and the boys, but I think more for mom and for Matt. I mean, matt is, oh, he, he takes things very hard and, yeah, he was, he was one of them. So I talked to Kendra and I was like, oh, how, matt doing, she's like, oh, she's like, well, he act like he was doing just fine, but she's like, I'll find out later. So I mean, you know, it's just, it's a, it's like I've said, it multiplies is a kick at first, but then you realize it's like he's got two kidneys. Yeah, you know, people survive from this, you know, and people are supposed to survive from cervical cancer too, and especially when they say it's the, the kind that you know is most curable. And you know, we know that that Didn't happen with Missy, but there was a reason for it.

Speaker 2: 31:14

Yes. There's a reason for everything, yes, so and I I feel the reason for mine is To help others who are going through this again, like I was saying, to be that salt in that light.

Speaker 2: 31:27

Yeah to Just kind of help show, because every week I plan on giving a little bit of an update as far as what's going on. And I granted, over the next few weeks we're just going to be kind of in the holding pattern. Yeah, right until so, sorry, but yeah, so we are getting this episode to this topic, yeah, but you know, next week we're going to get right back into the Bible study. Yeah, I know you're excited. Anyway, yeah, that's what I want to use this for. I want to use it for God's glory, not I'm, I'm just I Want to say to the book but oh what?

Speaker 1: 32:14

Yeah, let's not say that. Why would you say that?

Speaker 2: 32:18

I'm trying to think of what it actually means.

Speaker 1: 32:21

Well, let's not think too hard, because our time's up.

Speaker 2: 32:23

Like meaningless I'm I'm Hevel, that's weird. Okay, Meaningless I'm just like a breeze. I'm here and gone. Our lives are temporary.

Speaker 1: 32:32

Right, right yes.

Speaker 2: 32:33

This body is a tent? Yes, it's. It's temporary habitat for us to live in. Eventually, we're all going to leave our bodies. Yes, like I said before, I have no fear of death. I know exactly where I'm going when I die.

Speaker 1: 32:50

Right.

Speaker 2: 32:52

Again. Like you said, though, I do worry about Paige and the boys, and personally, I would love to live till I'm 70, or at least 67, so I can be dad. But yes, I do, I would like to live till I'm 70, but it's not up to me, it's not my choice. Nope, we're living lives according to God's plan.

Speaker 1: 33:17

Yep.

Speaker 2: 33:18

And I, like I've told you in the past, my prayer is always I trust that whatever is happening, whatever happens in my life good, bad, ugly doesn't matter, it's happening because it's what God intends Right. I pray for God's will to be done in my life, no matter what it is.

Speaker 1: 33:35

Right.

Speaker 2: 33:36

So when he sends me cancer, I am going to use it for His glory.

Speaker 1: 33:40

Right.

Speaker 2: 33:41

Again, it's not about me, it's about Him and that's what I want to do. So I do plan on giving a little bit of an update when there is updates and go from there, just so you guys know. But we'll just do the update at the beginning and then do Bible study like we normally do.

Speaker 1: 33:57

Yeah, and we should get through Bible study too next time.

Speaker 2: 34:00

So maybe we'll get through it. We'll get through a miniscule part of it.

Speaker 1: 34:08

Yeah, well, that's okay. All right, so we're out of time.

Speaker 2: 34:13

Yep, we are.

Speaker 1: 34:14

Yeah. So we thank you for joining us tonight for our not our Bible study, but our glory to God and our message that Michel wants to bring to you that you guys are going to live through his testimony, and that's a big thing. You guys will get to see it. So we appreciate you joining us this evening and don't forget to like subscribe.

Speaker 1: 34:36

Yep, and also that you can go to purefaithlivingcom to send us an email. And, as always, we I don't even remember my mind, so I don't even know, and as always, we thank you for joining us. We, yeah, what is it?

Speaker 2: 34:54

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Speaker 1: 34:58

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Speaker 2: 34:59

Don't forget to subscribe. Yeah, and we will talk to you again.

Speaker 1: 35:03

Have a blessed day everyone.