Pure Faith: A Bible Discussion Podcast

Embracing Life, Laughter, and Lessons Amidst Loss (Matthew 5:17-20...Part 3)

December 05, 2023 Mitchell Heitkamp and Michele Waymire Episode 123
Pure Faith: A Bible Discussion Podcast
Embracing Life, Laughter, and Lessons Amidst Loss (Matthew 5:17-20...Part 3)
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As we reminisce about our dad's death anniversary and the upcoming state football game, my brother, Mitchell and I share our personal journey through the emotional waves. Our cars, painted with Bible verses, speak of our faith and the strong support system we have found in fellow moms. To lighten the mood, we bring you some Christmas cheer, with tales of Mitchell's excitement regarding decorations, hilarious cat antics, and Mitchell's trip to the zoo to view the stunning Christmas lights.

Shifting gears, we dive headfirst into serious topics, providing an update on cancer and how we're tackling life's hurdles with positivity. We delve into the importance of even the smallest commandments, and the role of Pharisees and scribes in scripture, emphasizing that mere external righteousness isn't enough to enter the kingdom of heaven. Our conversations traverse various themes, from the commercialization of Christmas to our decision to ditch Christmas lights this year. All the while, we infuse humor and fun with stories about cats causing chaos around Christmas trees and our future plans when our kids graduate.

Finally, we circle back to our faith, underlining the significance of spreading the good word of Jesus Christ and our collective efforts to do so. We encourage you to be part of our journey, share your thoughts, and spread the word. Remember to subscribe to stay connected. This episode concludes with a heartfelt shoutout to the Tigers for their trip to their state finals football game. So come, join us on this rollercoaster of emotions, laughs, and deep reflections, as we navigate life, faith, and everything in between.

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Pure Faith Podcast, a podcast where we discuss all things Bible. I am your co-host, michelle, and this is my brother, mitchell. He is considered the host of this podcast.

Speaker 2:

By you.

Speaker 1:

By you. By you, it was your idea. Anyhow, we ask that you like this video, subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification icon to be notified when new episodes are released.

Speaker 2:

I'm doing better, Daniel.

Speaker 1:

So this is Daniel, and Daniel and his teammates traveled to Canton today for the state football game tomorrow. Hopefully, they will defeat the Hornets. So, tiger Ball, what are you playing? They're playing the Hornets. Okay, they're Kirtland, is that how you say it?

Speaker 2:

Anyhow, no idea.

Speaker 1:

Doesn't matter. I brought these fat heads to the games and they are not allowed to be in the stadium tomorrow, so I brought it here tonight, so that way we could show him off to our podcast. Go, daniel.

Speaker 2:

That's a perfect place for you, right over you.

Speaker 1:

So, and I'm wearing his button. We had a lot going on today. We had a clap through at 8.05 this morning. Mom was able to go with me to that, and then we had a meal for them at 11. They had practice and came back, so we had a meal for them and then we had to send off at 1.30 and they are currently at the hotel. So they will get up tomorrow morning and their game is at 10.30. So we're recording this here on Thursday, which is November the 30th, so when Mitchell releases the podcast, if you haven't heard, he will let you know if we won or if we did not win this football game. So how will I?

Speaker 2:

let them know when you post it.

Speaker 1:

you can be like dot dot dot, the Tigers won, or something.

Speaker 2:

I guess, if you want me to, I mean, I mean right.

Speaker 1:

So we got our cars painted also, Daniel had chose a couple of Bible verses put on our on our cars. We do have Joshua 1, 6 on there and Joshua 1, 9. 1 9. That's what I meant. And Isaiah 6 8. Yes, so Joshua 1 9 and Isaiah 6 8.

Speaker 2:

And I know that I just don't know anything and we were going to do Philippians 4 13.

Speaker 1:

I'm like there's so many you could. You could load our car up with Bible verses, so. But yeah, so we, we have that done as well. So, yeah, good luck to the team. I hope that they win, I hope we can bring back a victory. But in stating that, so two years ago we had a state football game, and that was on a Saturday and it was an evening game. I think it was seven o'clock, I don't hardly remember because that passed away the night before. So this is bringing a lot of back, a lot of memories.

Speaker 1:

I've had been very emotional, especially today. I was very emotional today, but you know it's, it's just, it just grief, it just hits you and I mean you just don't know when it's going to hit you. So, luckily, the people that I'm going through this exciting time with for these senior boys are the same moms who were there when that happened as well. So, yeah, glad to have that. So, but this is sorry, mom, I got it, I got it, I got to say it.

Speaker 1:

I was talking to mom on the phone and I'm like she's like we're talking about the state game. She went up early, she's she's shopping. She went to Holmes County so I told her. I said she's like, do we win the last state football game? And I said we did. She's like what? Did you make it back for the wedding? I'm like, did we have a wedding? I'm like, yeah, I know we didn't have a wedding the next day. That was after Missy passed away. She was like I completely blocked everything out, Like she has no recollection I cannot say that of that time. And so you know that too, is can be very emotional at this time. I know she's. She's going through the steps as well. So the anniversary of dad's death is 12, three, 21.

Speaker 2:

Coming up very soon here.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, it's just been, it's been kind of a roller coaster ride. So, yeah, enough about me.

Speaker 2:

Are you sure? Because, norm, that's what this is about.

Speaker 1:

I know Well, I wasn't sure what you wanted to do tonight. Do we want to make it all about me? I mean you're supposed to say it's not all about you. It's not all about you, right.

Speaker 2:

Why they want to hurt your feelings.

Speaker 1:

No, there is no feelings to be hurt. There's no feelings right now.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I'm not involved in any of this football stuff. My oldest is four, I got 10 more years. He's got more years before I got, so everybody's got.

Speaker 1:

Christmas flights at the zoo to think about. I do have that. That is what I'm doing, that is what you were doing this weekend and, luckily, if you're doing on Saturday that's, are you doing it tomorrow on Saturday?

Speaker 2:

We are leaving tomorrow. I'm actually leaving work early. We're going up tomorrow, we're going to the hotel and then the boys we got a hotel with an indoor pool. Oh yes, we can spend plenty of time around the pool.

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, and then you're going to the festival of lights or whatever it's called.

Speaker 2:

I know nothing about it.

Speaker 1:

That's okay. Well, I'm just thinking. During our football game tomorrow it's supposed to rain and the highest chance rain is between the hours of 10 and two and our game starts at 10.30. So be glad you're not going to the zoo tomorrow between the hours of 10.30 and two.

Speaker 2:

But the fact that you guys are half the game. Our babysitter took off. Oh, she's one of the game and everybody else is going, so Paige actually had to take the whole page is mom and dad. They're watching the boys in the morning but then they're leaving to go to the game.

Speaker 1:

No, they're going to Columbus, okay.

Speaker 2:

Because we're going with her family.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So, then, paige had to take the second half of the day off work because we have nobody else to watch the boys.

Speaker 1:

There's like nobody in the sound.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So then I'm like, well, I'll just see if I can get off work early and we can just go up to Columbus early then, and oh, all the full time you're going to have, I'm so thrilled.

Speaker 1:

You'll have to go.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's really neat. I probably will.

Speaker 1:

I said I've only been to Cincinnati one. I've not been to the Columbus one, where they have it. But we went to the Cincinnati one Years ago. We met Don's best friend, Dave, and his family down there and it was. It was really neat. We enjoyed it.

Speaker 2:

So I should tell you I'm not one to put up Christmas lights and do all that.

Speaker 1:

I don't believe we're glad that you don't, because they'd be up all year round.

Speaker 2:

They would be up all year round.

Speaker 1:

Yes, they would.

Speaker 2:

There's no doubt on my mind, it's very easy to decorate for Christmas, because that all the stuff is still up, yeah, except for the Christmas tree. We do take the Christmas tree down, but other than that, it's pretty much there. We decorate for all seasons.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But in my defense, christmas is about Jesus. So you have Jesus-centered things like an activity. We have little ones set up year-round, we have signs about what's. Someone say Something about the wise men Wise men still. How do they say it? Wise men still search for him or seek him, something like that. But it's a Christmas thing that stays up year-round. So if it's about Jesus, then why does it need to come down?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 2:

Celebrate Jesus year-round.

Speaker 1:

Right, I was really excited because I think it was two years ago. I got the major book I think it's just called the major, I'm not sure and I was cleaning our basement this week because there's so much stuff in our basement, we just need to get rid of it. And I found this book and so usually you're supposed to start on December 1st and have it done by Christmas time. So, mike, it's like an advent type book, almost, yeah, but I remember starting it but I don't remember finishing it last time. So I'm like I need to read this book and finish this book. So I'm excited about that. I'm still caught up on I lost his name, gray, jason Gray, is it Jason Gray? He is a. I mean I guess we say yeah, he came to BMI.

Speaker 1:

But he's a storyteller right, a Christian storyteller and musician and he came to BMI that was one of the first concerts I went to being a part of Living Waters Church, and we went there and he and Paige was there you, I don't know where, you, oh, you could it was in 2019. And I say you might have been overseas it was 2019.

Speaker 2:

I would have been deployed.

Speaker 1:

I think you were deployed, Because I think yeah. So we went there and he did a storytelling thing on a book that he wrote and he even said it at the beginning of that. I don't know anyone called it a concert, but that storytelling thing he's like you'll want to remember the name of this book and I did not write it down and nobody wrote it down and for the life of me I cannot find this book and I just wanted to read it. I know that Paige looked for it as well, but Jason Gray is a great storyteller when it comes to Christmas time, so I would really like for them to get him to come back at some time. I just thought he was neat. His son was there too. It was a neat concert I really enjoyed that one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't remember that one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you weren't here then Because you would have been there, so I'm sure it was 2019. Christmas of 2019. So, but yeah, he did a great job, so I'm excited about this book anyhow.

Speaker 2:

So to finish my story, that's somebody hijacked.

Speaker 1:

Wasn't your story over.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

What else are you talking about?

Speaker 2:

Well, about Christmas decorations. So, yes, most of my decorations would be up year round, but I don't buy into the commercialization of Christmas, so I don't put up Christmas lights, and that could go on about that. But so I picked up the boys for moms. I think I might have been yesterday I don't know, it might have been yesterday, and you know it's winter, so it gets dark early.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it was dark whenever I was picking them up and so I was like, oh, I'm gonna turn on the Christmas lights as we were leaving. So I'm like, okay, well, we get in the car and Zeke's like, oh no, we gotta wait, we gotta wait, we gotta see the lights. I'm like, okay, she turns them on. Oh, they're so pretty, they're so pretty, I'm sure. So we get in the car, we go home and then Zeke's like, where's our Christmas lights? I'm like we don't have Christmas lights. We go look at other people's Christmas lights, but I want Christmas lights. And then I told him that Uncle Matt has our Christmas lights.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But he didn't help with those lights up either. Oh my goodness. So I said yeah our lights are done there. They're done. You want to see Christmas lights? You have to look up the window or out the door and you can see your Christmas lights.

Speaker 1:

Oh. So he got so excited because he helped Matt and Kendra put the lights on the tree. They weren't allowed to like plug in the Christmas tree the day after Thanksgiving, but they put their tree up and they put the decoration on it. He was so excited because he got to help that day because you guys were splitting firewood I think you and Paige Anyhow. So then he comes to my house that following Friday and he's like, and Shally's like can I help put up your Christmas tree? I'm like sure, yes, you can help me. I go downstairs to get my Christmas tree. My Christmas tree now is three and a half foot tall. It's real life. You just like it. He was not happy, like where's your Christmas tree? I'm like it's right here. He's like as y'all, that is not a Christmas tree. I'm like it's my Christmas tree. It's so funny.

Speaker 2:

That's why I put up last year and I got a trouble because it's like, no, you need a big tree, and I had a little tabletop thing.

Speaker 1:

I wanted one of those ceramic ones like Grandma Grandma, I can't believe that has white ones.

Speaker 2:

That has light.

Speaker 1:

Oh okay, I don't know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I wanted one of those, but I couldn't find one.

Speaker 1:

So but yeah, I just have this small tree and yeah, I plugged in. I debated on getting some little bulb so he could come over and I'm like, no, it's just not worth it. Maybe one day, when I have green kids, I can do that. Our tree's pretty lit.

Speaker 2:

Is it? Yeah, but then Paige ruins it by putting all this tinsel and stuff.

Speaker 1:

He does do tinsel. I was just thinking. When you have your tree up, this is your first Christmas with the cat. Is your tree up, it's up.

Speaker 2:

Has the cat been in the tree? I don't know if she's gone up and through the tree, but I know she like so Paige's grandpa. Her grandma passed away in 2019.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

February. I think, Well, just past Thanksgiving they got all the Christmas ornaments and Christmas decorations that Chinkr doesn't put up. Well, they had all that stuff out. They had it all out in the basement and you could go through it and everybody could pick out what they wanted. Well, we never had an angel for a tree, so Paige found her angel and she got that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, it has two little light bulbs in its own hands, but one of the light bulbs burnt out and she didn't have the right bulb and trying to fix it. So here I am on this little kids' chair, a little kids' chair. Wind chair and I asked Paige what the weight was.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say this thing held you.

Speaker 2:

I stood directly on top. No shifting of weight.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And it held me, so I worked on this chair. Well then, the chair didn't get moved right away, because by the time I was done it was time to eat. So I went and ate. Well, needless to say, the cat got on the chair and was knocking the ornaments off the tree, and there's also been a few times where we heard her doing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. You have to move all of the ornaments up, like having a toddler.

Speaker 2:

She had to go out and spank the cat because it was getting into the tree.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, our cat never climbed in the tree, so when I see this from other people it's very comical to me. But you would find her laying under it because all the heat from the light she always laid underneath it Under my tree. But now that I've got a 3.5 foot tree I don't have to worry about the cat anymore.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I've seen her underneath there. She's looking up like she wants to climb it, but ours is a fake tree and it's very clustered, so I don't think she has enough room to actually go into the tree. Oh, you don't know that cats can do just about anything.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's pages, cat yeah.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't know that Technically it's Zeke's cat, I think. But Page and I cat have a special bond.

Speaker 1:

That's very interesting, because I didn't think she liked cats and then Kelsey just got a cat.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know, they're all weird.

Speaker 1:

Crazy. I can't wait until Daniel graduates because I told him he had to take the cat as a, as a what is it? A therapy cat? Yeah To college. I'm going to file a paper, oh yeah it's going to be an emotional support animal right. I'm filling out the paperwork and everything. Mm-hmm, it's going with them, I'm just. It says you work glittery tonight, aren't you? I am glittery.

Speaker 2:

That's what happens when you work in a machine shop. Exactly, I mean are we doing a Bible study tonight?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we want to finish up.

Speaker 2:

I'm just waiting for you to stop talking so I can get started.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I tell you you you love it. Don't tell me you don't.

Speaker 2:

So I don't really have a cancer update because nothing really happened.

Speaker 1:

Oh wait, I totally forgot that you're doing cancer updates. No, but next week, is it next week? No, it's two weeks. Two weeks, Two weeks before you have your surgery.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we're going to have to hopefully record two episodes. We're going to have to record that one early that week Mm-hmm. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be up before recording the first day. No, no, probably not We'd have to come to Dayton, to the VA, to record.

Speaker 1:

We could do a recording right from your, your bed.

Speaker 2:

Maybe if I'm there for a full week.

Speaker 1:

I hope you're not there for a full week, but it's possible, I know, I know.

Speaker 2:

But um, so yeah, so over the next two episodes we'll do that, just highlight, like this whole, not a sort of the cancer, but like, like we said last week, why bad things happen to good people. Oh yeah, I'm not saying I'm a good person, I'm just generally speaking.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying he's a good person either thanks for your support, loving sister, but yeah, stuff along those lines and why I approach this the way I do, the, the mentality I have when it comes to this I still don't care about it like I don't know. It's no good way of putting in it words and. I don't care yeah come across bad.

Speaker 1:

It does, but you're not letting it consume your life yeah you're really not actually I don't remember where I was.

Speaker 2:

Look at a button through my head last night. To you, that takes a huge time. The song I gave that old church choir where I won't let anything steal my joy, mm-hmm, yeah, I had that running through my head there for a while. So that's if you know that song. That's kind of the situation. That's how I approach it. I'm not gonna let anything steal my joy. So definitely not this. It's not worth. It means it's comes from the devil.

Speaker 2:

Answers is evil mm-hmm but that doesn't mean that we have to let it consume our lives exactly we don't have to, let us do our joy. So it's kind of way I approach it. So over the next couple weeks I need to figure out how to put that in words that I can share and express.

Speaker 2:

That don't make sense, and so, even after the surgery, I don't know how long that's going to take, but yeah, so we'll pursue that for a little while, for a little while, and then I'll get back to our normal but what our normal Bible study, mm-hmm that's not a good idea so tonight we're going to try to finish up this little section that we're on, which is verse 20. I'll probably do a little bit more in verse 19 we'll see, because we are kind of running short on time so I might not. But yeah, we'll cover verse verse. Verse 20, chapter 5, verse 20, matthew, mm-hmm and go from there okay are you ready? Yeah, started.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we might as well. I mean yeah, I don't know how much time we have. How much time we have got 10 minutes okay, perfect.

Speaker 2:

I did edit a little bit out of last week you did yeah.

Speaker 1:

I didn't watch it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not surprised that you shouldn't be it was pretty long, so I cut a little bit out okay but anyways, that's just random we did, you come. I try to get as much of you out as I could.

Speaker 1:

I'm believe I'm watching this thing. We'll see I'm gonna watch it all right. So what does it say? What is 20 say?

Speaker 2:

so I'm worried. 1920. Okay, so verse 19 this is Matthew 519 reads therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same, will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Speaker 2:

For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven oh yes so one thing that I didn't highlight whenever I was talking about verse 19 last week was the fact that Jesus is saying that whoever relaxes one of the least of the commandments again we talked about the fact how that is actually the law so the least of any one of the laws that's up for debate for whoever, but what Jesus is really emphasizing is even the smallest of the laws of the commandments is important. It's just as important and that goes back again we're talking about reading this in context going back up to verse of an 18, where talk about how not in iota, not a dot will pass from the law.

Speaker 2:

So this is just kind of an echo of that that even the least, even the smallest of the commandment commandments I can't talk to you know, no matter what they're all important, from the least of the greatest, and that's what Jesus is trying to highlight, and that's something I didn't mention last week, and so I wanted to talk about that. But now, as we get into verse 20 and for I tell you, which is the second time that is used unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. So first let's talk about the Pharisees and the scribes. So back in I don't remember which episode it was, it would have been Matthew 3 something we talked about the Pharisees and that's whenever we're talking about John the Baptist called the at that time, and when that section was the, the Pharisees and Sadducees called them a brood of hyper show. We kind of talked about the Pharisees and Sadducees at that point.

Speaker 2:

When now we're talking about the Pharisees and scribes and the scribes, they kind of get overlooked, and I actually didn't even realize how often the scribes are mentioned in scripture, but they're actually mentioned quite a bit, and they're often mentioned with the Pharisees okay but the reason I talked about the fact that we talked about the Pharisees and Sadducees back and I think it was Matthew 3, I don't remember, but so if you want to go back and watch that episode that is on YouTube and you can get more info about Pharisees, then I'm not going to rehash a bunch of details now that are already covered. But one thing I do want to talk about is the fact that the Pharisees the way to understand them in in our modern-day society and almost be like they were a denomination- okay like now we have, you know, lutheran, presbyterians, catholics.

Speaker 2:

You have all these different denominations. They're all Christian, but they're all their own, separate little. They have their own little beliefs and everything else. Well, that's basically what the Pharisees were, and you could put the scribes in the same category as a denomination. But, but these Pharisees, they were a denomination that focused on the law.

Speaker 2:

They like the rules and the way Jesus is calling him out here and saying how their righteousness, your righteousness has to exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees and the scribes. This goes back to the fact that, as Pharisees, whenever they started their denomination for the best understanding they had good intent. Their intent was to worship God through obeying his laws, and that's perfectly fine, that's actually a good thing. But the problem is, over time, over the years, over the centuries, their focus shifted and the righteousness that we are called to live with, righteousness that we covered whenever we were going through the Beatitudes, when we were talking about being salt and light, that righteousness, living our lives right in the eyes of God for them, that switched and instead of following these laws and these commandments in order to worship God, they were following them to elevate themselves.

Speaker 2:

So their righteousness shifted from a biblical righteousness to a self-righteousness. So the focus was no longer about God and glorifying him. It was about them glorifying themselves by and we'll see this as we get further into Matthew they would stand on street corners and pray loudly and just put themselves out in public and be like hey, look at us, we are the Pharisees, we are the elite law keepers and you should want to be like us, but that's not the way it's supposed to be. And again, going back to this, I think this is why Jesus hammers the Pharisees so hard throughout the Gospels, and especially in Matthew, because we have to remember Matthew's writing to the Jewish people specifically. So the Jewish people are well aware of the Pharisees and who they are and what they stand for.

Speaker 2:

And everything that they do. So, yeah, I don't know, I just kind of went blank on that one. I don't have any notes, so I'm just preaching.

Speaker 1:

I guess Right, yes, you are.

Speaker 2:

Anyways. So bringing that back to the scribes, so who are the scribes? Well, the scribes. Traditionally the actual term for a scribe is somebody who writes. So it would be somebody who, back in those days, a lot of times, you have to remember, they didn't have printed books, they couldn't go to the local store and pick up a copy of a book. I actually heard recently that for them back in that day, in order to get a copy of the Torah or the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Gospel, it would have been equivalent to about $2,000. So for them that was a lot of money. So, yeah, people didn't have books laying around, but it was the scribes who would copy these books and there was a certain sect of scribes that were mainly made of Levites and, if you don't remember, the ites were the preachers, I guess, from the temple.

Speaker 2:

But by the time Jesus was there, the days of Jesus, these scribes kind of shifted a little bit. Yes, they were the primary ones who copied the Pentateuch, the law. They're the ones that would make the copies of them for other people to have or most likely buy. But they also stepped up into more of a pastoral rule, so they would also do teaching and preaching and stuff like that, but again, their main focus was the law. So the Pharisees and the scribes were very, very, very similar in what they believed and in fact, a lot of scribes were probably part of the Pharisee denomination. So that is where the scribes and Pharisees come together and again, like I was saying, when they started out they had good intentions but their intentions changed. And so for us, jesus is saying unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, so yea, I give God the word. We just talked about how the righteousness of the Pharisees and the scribes have changed, became self-righteousness. So in order for our righteousness to exceed theirs, our righteousness needs to be focused on God.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Again, going back to the beatitudes, to everything that we've been teaching up to this point. It's incorporating all that into your daily lives and if we do that, if we maintain living our lives correctly, rightly in the eyes of God, then our righteousness will exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees and scribes, Even though they were viewed as being the most righteous people, especially for the Jewish people. That day they're like there's nobody more righteous than the Pharisees and scribes, but Jesus is like no, their righteousness is not focused on the right thing. So if we can live focused on God, then we would exceed the Pharisees and scribes.

Speaker 1:

And we don't have to do that externally.

Speaker 2:

No, a lot of it is internally.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying too. The Pharisees and stuff. It was very outgoing and out-approach to all of it. Right, they were very focused on me. Look at me, here I am.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of pageantry involved with the Pharisees Right, and it's not about going out and saying I'm a Christian and listen to me type thing. It's more internal, like the things that you're doing to be right in God's eyes your devotions, your praying, your faithfulness, even just helping people that aren't expecting help. I mean just every good thing that you can do. But it doesn't have to be external. It can be just praying for somebody.

Speaker 2:

And we'll actually get into that in Matthew 6.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Whenever. Well, in Matthew 6, you have the Lord's Prayer and right before the Lord's Prayer, jesus talks about you know, don't pray like the Pharisees, don't use a lot of words to have a true corner.

Speaker 1:

See, and that's what I remember, when we were down in the basement before we started doing YouTube, we did stuff on that as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we did a nice long series on the Lord's Prayer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But part of that is go to the inner room. What you do in private, the Lord will see.

Speaker 1:

So that's how You're humble in all of it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's how we should be living. You know, that would be the right way of living Exactly, not being Living your life in a way that makes you look good.

Speaker 1:

A hypocrite. Is that what they say?

Speaker 2:

Don't be like the hypocrite.

Speaker 1:

The hypocrite.

Speaker 2:

Which are the Pharisees?

Speaker 1:

Right. All right with that. We are out of time, so sorry for you.

Speaker 2:

Not too sad.

Speaker 1:

I really don't want to cut a lot of me out for this next episode, so I'm just going to cut him out right now.

Speaker 2:

That's going to be the kingdom of heaven for us.

Speaker 1:

No what.

Speaker 2:

Kingdom of heaven.

Speaker 1:

We will. What? How long is it we?

Speaker 2:

will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Speaker 1:

Oh, do you still have a little bit to go?

Speaker 2:

No, it's fine.

Speaker 1:

I don't know when you're going to do it. Do you want to do it now?

Speaker 2:

No, it's fine. I think we've covered kingdom of heaven I think we have.

Speaker 1:

If you live right, you will enter the kingdom of heaven.

Speaker 2:

And you can enter the kingdom of heaven. Now We've covered that. We've never covered the attitudes, but there will be a future fulfillment and when you actually pass on, yes, exactly right. So okay, I'll record too.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Have a blessed day everybody.

Speaker 1:

Go Tigers.

Speaker 2:

Where they going.

Speaker 1:

The victory Go Tigers, go Tigers.

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