Pure Faith: A Bible Discussion Podcast

Riding the Waves of Uncertainty: Life's Tumultuous Journey

December 19, 2023 Mitchell Heitkamp and Michele Waymire Episode 125
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What if you could find peace amidst the turbulence of a busy life and the unpredictability of serious illness such as cancer? Our episode today is a testament to that possibility as we, Michele and Mitchell, navigate a hectic week filled with personal and professional challenges - from surgeries to hair appointments, and yes, even a bit of shaving humor. We believe in acknowledging life's unpredictability yet finding comfort in God's will and plan, no matter the enormity of the uncertainties we face.

Our conversation takes a deeper turn as we wrestle with the complex realities of battling serious illness. We share Missy's touching story - her fight with cervical cancer, the rollercoaster of emotions, and the unfathomable strength she exemplifies. However, it's not all somber; we revisit the fascinating concept of original sin, exploring its implications on our relationship with God. Even though life throws us curveballs, we stress the importance of staying positive and active during the healing process.

Lastly, we move to a more tranquil side, reflecting on peace, family interactions, and our experiences in the military. We also share our thoughts on the challenge of writing, its impact on spiritual growth, and the possibility of resuming writing articles. We find that despite our struggles, there is a balance and rhythm to life that is both soothing and inspiring. Remember, we appreciate your feedback, so don't hesitate to reach out. Subscribe and share if this episode resonated with you. Enjoy this heartwarming blend of faith, introspection, humor, and everyday life.

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Pure Faith Podcast, a podcast where we discuss all things Bible. I am your co-host, michelle, and this is my brother, mitchell, and we are glad that you joined us this evening. We ask that you like this video, subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification icon to be notified when new episodes are released. I say this evening because we are here Monday evening this week.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Not Thursday.

Speaker 1:

Not Thursday. It's my fault, it is his fault. Usually it's my fault, but yeah, it's your fault, it's been your fault lately. I know it really has.

Speaker 2:

Well, technically it was Daniel's fault.

Speaker 1:

It was, but technically I made the choice to be a part of the mother's group that was doing the event. I could have chose not to do those things. I chose to do that.

Speaker 2:

You could have not told me that, and then how would it have been, daniel?

Speaker 1:

Right, but I don't want to do that because it really was a choice and I knew that we had some flexibility, even though when we do it on an off day, I'm totally off.

Speaker 2:

I'm really off too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I told Don, I'm like I got Bible studies and he goes on a Monday and I'm like, yeah, I know, but Tuesday the church is already booked, and I said that Mitchell has his surgery on Wednesday, so and then, the wedding this weekend. We're really busy people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, and you go tomorrow already, right?

Speaker 2:

No, I go Wednesday.

Speaker 1:

Today's. Monday I do have to go tomorrow. You have to go get a.

Speaker 2:

COVID test tomorrow. Yes, I'll get a COVID test tomorrow morning and I have to go there to do it, because it has to be done at their facilities, which whatever.

Speaker 1:

Right, so yeah, when this is released, though, you'll already be under the knife.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, by the time this is released I hopefully will be home. I hope you are too.

Speaker 1:

I really do.

Speaker 2:

Because last week's episode will be released tomorrow, as of when we're recording this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, that is right.

Speaker 2:

So this will be the following Tuesday Tuesday night, wednesday morning.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so hopefully I will be home by then, because that would have been a week and hopefully. I didn't stay in the hospital the whole week.

Speaker 1:

He will update you, but I'm sure he'll be home.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I want to update you until the next episode. I don't know if I remember to get on.

Speaker 1:

Well, remember I told you that you were going to update the. I did watch the episode where I said you're going to update them about if they want or not and you put they lost and like floating words down here in my mind. That was good.

Speaker 2:

They lost.

Speaker 1:

They lost. Yeah, that's all right, but yeah, so we are getting into a busy week this week.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just feel like. I just told Mitchell when we were outside. I said I feel like I never see you and I said I feel like I see you too much. Just remember. So yes, we recorded last week, I think on Thursday, our regular day, and then I watched the boys on Saturday, we went to church on Sunday and we're here again on Monday.

Speaker 2:

That's a lot of days in a row.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot of days on our own. I'm not going to lie. I mean I'm okay with not seeing you for a couple of days.

Speaker 2:

You're the ones going.

Speaker 1:

But I am going to the hospital on Wednesday. Yeah, so Paige.

Speaker 2:

But wait, mommy, to sound. You guys are driving up a little bit later.

Speaker 1:

We are, yeah, okay, so Paige told me that that Teresa is keeping the boys and you guys are leaving first thing to be there for 6.30 on Wednesday morning. We figure that your procedure probably won't be until about 8.30 or 9. We don't even know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I won't know until tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

Right, oh, tomorrow, which is even better. So then we're going to plan to be there before you go into surgery and then we'll stay with Paige. And then I told mom either then I'll drive home and Paige and mom can stay for a while, or mom and I will come home, or all of us will come. I don't have no idea, but I have a very important meeting at 6pm that I cannot miss on Wednesday evening.

Speaker 2:

It's my hair appointment. Oh my goodness, I have a hair appointment tomorrow night.

Speaker 1:

Do you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, with my razor.

Speaker 1:

You have to shave your face and everything.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to. I didn't know if you did or not.

Speaker 2:

No, If I was nice, I'd probably shave my belly. But I'll let them do it.

Speaker 1:

It's not happening. Also, the procedure can take a little bit longer than it's supposed to because they have to shave.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, where is this going to be for? Because they got a lot of shaving to do.

Speaker 1:

Maybe Paige will do it for you.

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure I can hear exactly what her response is.

Speaker 1:

I know the response too, because oh Don's like, will you shave that patch on my back? Oh my gosh, no, can't you reach it yourself?

Speaker 2:

I know better than to ask.

Speaker 1:

Oh, cracks me up.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, it's going to be Like I said last week. I guess for us it was only a few days ago. I'm not sure what God's plan is, what His will is for me and this. So there's a little bit of.

Speaker 1:

Is it unevenness?

Speaker 2:

Maybe I don't even know the right word to use, because I trust whatever happens, it is what it is. I want to roll with it because it's going to be what I assume God's will is, so I want to roll with it, but there's still a little bit of a I don't know, just not knowing.

Speaker 1:

Since you've been told, do you feel any different?

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I think it gets in my head.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that's what I wondered.

Speaker 2:

Like the day that I had my MRI, where they actually checked my kidneys. I was in a lot of pain that day.

Speaker 1:

Were you.

Speaker 2:

My kidneys were in a lot of pain. That's because they put this contrast. They shot me with this contrast during the MRIs to get better images and that stuff is just Hard to.

Speaker 2:

So that hurt that day and then I haven't really had too many issues. But then, like yesterday here at church, I started to feel like pain in my kidney area and then after church, as I was waiting around, I started to get like a little bit of weak and but I think I was just hungry because I didn't eat much for breakfast. But that wasn't my situation. It kind of gets in my head.

Speaker 1:

Well, see, and that's what we were here on Thursday and you said you couldn't get warm, that you had to chill, and I'm like, hmm, you know I just think of all the things like Missy went through and some of the things that happened I was like, oh, he's got a chill, but it's really not that cold in here, and usually I would be the one that's chilled and I'm like, hmm, I wonder if he's having any symptoms or anything. That was just from work.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah, well, and I only keep the shot like 62 degrees.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's nice and chilly. So when you're just standing around, and it was damp that day, I think too.

Speaker 2:

You can kind of get a little bit of chill, but normally I run around like a crazy man and I stay warm, like today. I think Paige tried to kill me today. Oh no, she kept sending me work.

Speaker 1:

You need disorder, this one this one, this one, and you went in early.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because I saw it on. I was seeing if you had come to the church yet and I saw that you had been at the same location since 7.29. And I know you usually don't go to work till 9.

Speaker 2:

So I was like oh, you went in early. That was after my breakfast. I didn't. I was at work and then I left to go get breakfast. I went back to work.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, where did you get breakfast at.

Speaker 2:

This one today.

Speaker 1:

Oh, don't tell me you got donuts. I did get donuts, okay.

Speaker 2:

Live like you're dying.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

That's the last time I get donuts for a while.

Speaker 1:

Oh, but there's no. Paige was telling me that. You said who's bringing me dinner every night in the hospital because you don't have to eat their food.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I'm hoping, I mean a man can wish right.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my goodness, yeah, that was one of the things that she told me, because I told her that I was going on Thursday.

Speaker 2:

I mean, if you want to stop and get me food, oh, I'm not going to get you donuts.

Speaker 1:

I don't want donuts. Okay, even though I did, I don't want to get donuts once a week. I did give you all those cookies and I actually felt bad about giving you all those cookies, but I gave them to you. You're like dad, dad always. You know he diabetic and he's like, hey, you got some cookies and I was like you're not supposed to have them. All right, here you go. Sucker, such a sucker.

Speaker 2:

I was too, that's okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but we can. Yeah, I'm going to. I'll go up there on Thursday. Maybe I'll bring you some food, if they allow me to. I guess what Do we see? What their rules?

Speaker 2:

are. Yeah, I don't know what their rules are going to be. My guess is the first couple of days, no, but after that.

Speaker 1:

Now, one of the people I spoke to in regards to how your procedure is going to be, because they're doing it like labroscopy. So they're. I don't know how you say it.

Speaker 2:

Liproscopic Okay. I don't know, I don't know if I'm saying it right.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, but anyhow they're. So you know they're making a couple incisions is what they're doing. They're not like cutting you open, like old school to do that.

Speaker 2:

No, they do have to make one incision big enough for the double-sized kidney to come out.

Speaker 1:

Yes, because the tumor is about three quarters.

Speaker 2:

It's three quarters the size of the actual kidney.

Speaker 1:

So you know I don't really know what it is for healing for, you know having a kidney removed, but you know this person was telling me that they had a similar procedure done, same way, and you know theirs was, you know, three to five days in the hospital and they were gone within three. So I don't figure you're going to milk it for anything.

Speaker 2:

No, that would be after day two. You'd be twitching to get out of there, right? Oh shoot, I got plenty of things I'm taking with me to keep me busy.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What's that I?

Speaker 2:

can do Bible study stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you can, and that's what I was thinking too, you know. You know, with nobody being there around the clock with you, that's fine, because you can find things to do.

Speaker 2:

You won't be bored, but I'm also I mean, I'm taking my mobile office with me. Okay, that's what I call my mobile office.

Speaker 1:

Is this the same way you take the drill.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, and but then I can also do some work, because I can draw parts programs and for work.

Speaker 1:

Oh, even better, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

Because I don't have enough vacation time and we don't get sick leave.

Speaker 1:

Well then at least you'll be able to log your hours.

Speaker 2:

But anyways.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so what else are you talking about tonight?

Speaker 2:

Well, we can kind of continue on with what we were talking about last week. I'm a little more organized this week Even better, just a little more.

Speaker 1:

Even better, love to hear it.

Speaker 2:

As in, I did my notes last night instead of the 15 minutes before I walked in.

Speaker 1:

He was sitting in his car when I got here this evening and I pulled up behind him, so I knew he was already here, but I didn't know what you were doing in your vehicle, so you weren't, I would just open up my notes and just read through the first few things. Okay.

Speaker 2:

But maybe that's what it is. I still recommend the articles on Pure Faith Livingcom.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

That will probably be a lot of the basis for what are you talking about tonight?

Speaker 2:

Well over the next however many weeks. We do this because it is about why bad things happen and that's about original sin and what sin is and how it affects our relationship with the Lord. It just goes through all those steps and it takes a progressive step forward to why bad things happen. There's no way to be completely cover everything, all the different scenarios of why something bad could happen. There's just way too much we don't know. We can't know why something bad is actually happening. Typically, you can get an idea in hindsight, but why you're going through that scenario like for me, going through this cancer, like I don't know why. I can speculate, I can make guesses, but until everything's said and done, until enough time goes by that I can look back and be like okay, I can see that this is what the Lord was doing and why he did it that way. But as of right now, I'm in limbo.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, that's really my only. It's not even a fear, it's that uncertainty because I don't know what the next step is. And here in the next few days things could go a lot of different directions. Best case scenario what I typically pray for, what I assume all my family's praying for, is that this cancer is completely removed. Surgery goes great, there are no cancer cells that escape and metastasize anywhere else and everything's taken out. And yes, I'm still going to have to go through a few years of checkups and scans to make sure nothing is anywhere else. Thank you, god bless you. You know in the end there'll be nothing left and all those scans are just going to keep coming back negative.

Speaker 2:

Then it could be like the same thing that happened to Missy, where some of the cells do get loose and intensify somewhere else and then they're chasing the cancer all over my body and to the to the point where they can't keep up and lead to my ultimate death or I can not even make it out of surgery.

Speaker 1:

You're right.

Speaker 2:

So there's a lot of different scenarios. So it's that uncertainty of not knowing what's going to happen which I mean. If I die, that's gonna be easiest thing for me.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, I mean it's gonna suck for everybody else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, hopefully that doesn't happen.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 1:

So, I can tell you like. So some people may not know Missy's story as well. So you know Missy was diagnosed with cervical cancer and you know, in stating you saying like you could be like Missy's, like Missy's cancer. So you know they went in and they did a full hysterectomy and they said we got it all, everything's good, you can ring the bell, your cancer free.

Speaker 1:

And she was good for for a good while and then it did like Mitchell said that the cells developed in her hip joint. She had a lot of pain in her hip and she couldn't move for a while and I remember the day that she went back to the hospital she didn't know that it was cancer, that her cancer was back. She was just in a lot of pain and that day she couldn't even walk to the vehicle. She had a crawl to the vehicle and dad took her to the hospital. That day she called it to see who could who could take her and dad had said that she literally had crawled to the vehicle and crawled into the vehicle like hands and knees crawled. I mean she was in so much pain and when we got down the hospital he asked for me to come down and I did and we have found that the cancer had settled into her hip joint and had.

Speaker 1:

You know, and you wonder at that point you're like, so is this still cervical cancer? And they say, yes, that the cell was released and it developed in that, in that area. So you know it can happen. You know what, like Mitchell's saying he's got kidney cancer. You know that we are praying that they get every, every inch of the cancer out, every cell of the cancer out in this, in this one procedure. But us as a family know that after a year's time, that could change that could change and you know at that point.

Speaker 1:

Then you can, because Missy didn't do any. I don't think she did any treatment after she did?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I don't think so it wasn't until after she had her second diagnosis that she had to start treatments yes, after at that point, that that's when she did her chemo and radiation and and, like I said, that's when they started chasing hers all over the place, excuse me, and didn't even go up to her lungs. I do not remember their. They had spots on her lungs they were concerned about, but I don't know if they ever determined it was actually cancer.

Speaker 1:

I don't, I don't remember that, I just remembered it being in her leg and so when she did her radiation, you know when, when I took her to those appointments, they would take her to. Are you yawning?

Speaker 1:

long day we talked about this earlier long. Anyhow, I took her in there and what they did was, you know, her radiation, because of where it is was, you know, right in her abdomen. So you know they would, they would, they would focus on that area and so it would just be, I mean, eaten at the insides of her at that point. So, yeah, but also, you know, you caught my I don't want to say missy didn't catch hers early either, so missies was like almost divine as well. Okay, so also it just to give some back. I know that this is not where we were going with this, but this could help somebody else that's listening. So you know, missy never had medical insurance. She worked at a doctor's office. She didn't have medical insurance. If she needed something, the doctors were there. She wasn't quick to go to the doctor you know at. In November I can't remember what year it was missy and chip alope. They flew to Vegas. They took a couple of friends with them. We did not know that they were getting married 2016.

Speaker 2:

It was a 2016 okay, for I did not get married okay.

Speaker 1:

So they went and they alope and they did the whole the whole Vegas thing and we got to see pictures at Christmas. They waited until Christmas things. It was Thanksgiving, yeah, thanksgiving, they did tell us at Thanksgiving. And so you know they shortly after that then you so missies then on chips, medical insurance, and she's like, okay, well, I guess I should go and get some, some tests done. And once you know that as soon as she got a medical insurance is when they found her cancer, I mean good, bad or indifferent, it's just like it's almost like a smack in the face like you now have medical insurance.

Speaker 1:

She never felt, to my knowledge, she never felt bad, she never had anything. That was that was telling her that you know that there was something you know, but then again you didn't either. I mean you were trying to catch something, you just didn't know what it was. But it wasn't until she went and had medical insurance that she went to her, you know, gynecologist and had, you know, had exams done and next you know she's got dinosaur cancer. So I mean it is it, can it can work in the wildest ways on how you, how you, how you find it so hopefully mine's gonna be after the first step.

Speaker 2:

They just take it out and it's gone and I don't have to go through all the stuff that Missy went through.

Speaker 1:

Right right.

Speaker 2:

But again I, it's not up to me.

Speaker 1:

It is not. It is not at all. It's not up to me, we do you know you, we pray for your medical staff and all the doctors and the nurses and you know all the people at the hospital. If, from here on out, because it's not just Wednesday- no. Wednesday is just the first start of it. Yeah, it's, I mean, mind you, actually a month ago was the first day.

Speaker 1:

You know, we pray for these doctors and these nurses now, because they're putting together a plan on how, you know, to get this cancer out of you. And then it's, you know, the follow-up appointments, and you know we want to make sure they have clear eyes, that they, you know, can stay focused on seeing what they're supposed to see and you know the, the knowledge and the wisdom that the Lord gives them, so that way they can, you know, medically take care of the illness that you have. You know that, you know listen to what God's saying to them and you're you're talking about. You know this might be for somebody else. This, this whole thing could be happening for your doctors, for your nurses.

Speaker 1:

It could be. It could be something and I've not met them, but it could be something that you know that that's for them the wisdom of God, that you know that what he's giving them to, to operate on you, that I mean, there's just so many ways to look at it.

Speaker 2:

I could just be a trial case for them to go through this procedure and then somewhere down the road they're going to have another case and they can look back at mine and be like this is what we did. This is what what what right, what's wrong, so we can do better and it would help somebody else down the road.

Speaker 1:

And I look at it this way, you're going through the VA.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right there. I think is is one of the things that we're we're looking at for this. You know, I don't know how many people could be listening or watching that could be involved. As a veteran of of our, of military of our military Armed forces.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, you know, but this could be helping somebody there too, because, you know, with all the things that went on overseas which of course it was not there, but you hear about all these things and all these sicknesses and all these things that are going on with our vets, you know it's like okay. So maybe this this too is is for the good of the veterans.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and to go off that the whole reason why I was going through these processes is because I do have things wrong with me and they're not major things like cancer. I didn't realize I had cancer, right, I was trying to get some of these other stuff kind of documented and at this point in time my current issues, my biggest issues, they are not recognizing as service related, when I know for a fact that service related and so it's getting all this stuff documented and in line and and you know, getting all your ducks in a row that way I can take it to and be like this is service related and all my other issues kind of stem from this first issue, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. And I think I said it in a past episode that now this cancer is also potentially service related because of the stuff that I was exposed to while overseas.

Speaker 1:

So and it's so weird because I don't watch a lot of TV. I do not watch a lot of TV. I've been watching a little bit TV lately and it seems like that's the commercial you always see If you're a veteran. I don't know. You know it's always one of those you know commercials that are. You know, if you were diagnosed with this, or if you would have that, or if this is this, if you were deployed overseas during this time and you have this, this or kidney cancer, and I'm like what Just in the last week, and I'm like, okay, well, you know what I find sad about that Is that I'm old enough that I actually applied to those things.

Speaker 2:

See back when I was younger but like, yeah, hasn't that been those. Those were the old times, for the old guy, I guess. I'm the old time.

Speaker 1:

Well, you're getting there, aren't you?

Speaker 2:

Well, military term? Yes, I am. You got over 20 years of service, so I'm an old timer in the army. Yes, you are, yes, you are.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, no, I mean, just like I said, just all of the things that are going hand in hand with all of it, and you know the things that you don't realize. You know, you didn't realize a month ago and now you're seeing it and seeing how things are working it's it's very different. It's very different. So how much?

Speaker 2:

time do I have, I got about three minutes oh so. I guess we're probably not going to get to my notes. Sorry, you're not sorry.

Speaker 1:

But you really said it depends on how much, how much talking we do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which we did more talking than I thought we were going to.

Speaker 1:

But you're surprised, are you, that I was able to talk this entire 30 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, I'm not surprised. You can talk.

Speaker 1:

But, again, the information that we're giving you guys also is, you know, information that we first hand have, yes, the stuff that we have experienced, yes, and real quick. I did want to bring this up. In Church on Sunday.

Speaker 1:

Pastor said that you need to find your internal peace to be a peacemaker. And I really have like, with all of this, like I feel at peace, you know, with Missy's passing and with Dad's passing. You know there's ups and downs, there's a lot of, there's a lot of grieving. It's a roller coaster, like most people say, but you do find your internal peace and I'm like, I'm looking, I was listening to him and I'm like I actually think I'm going to be a peacemaker this year. We have a lot going on, but we found our peace. We know where we were, we know what, what the Lord's doing for us, we know how he's working in our lives and we are at peace with all of it. And what we want to do is bring peace to you. We want to bring peace to the people who are listening, who are watching, and if there's ever anything that we can answer, I think that we can try. Yeah, I mean, we've been through a lot of things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just send us a message, send us goodappearfaithlivingcom. Backslashcontact, and you can fill out that little form and send us a question.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you'll also find on there the articles that Mitchell wrote. And then there's other articles on there too that you maybe take the time just to read, and maybe one of them can help you out.

Speaker 2:

I kind of want to start writing articles again.

Speaker 1:

Noah's mentioned that he would like to start writing articles again.

Speaker 2:

The reason I stopped was because of Ephraim.

Speaker 1:

You're blaming your child.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, having to get up at all hours of the night, I know right. So, but now he's.

Speaker 1:

But then you try to put him in his own bed and you're still probably up all hours of the night.

Speaker 2:

He's so cute, so last night, which so two nights ago, Saturday, you had the boys.

Speaker 1:

I did.

Speaker 2:

And Ephraim took a short nap when he was at your house.

Speaker 1:

He did.

Speaker 2:

And then we took him home and we tried to put him down for a normal nap and he went to fall asleep. So he fell asleep late for his nap and so then he got up late, obviously. Well, then we went to go put him down for bed for the night and he is in a transitional bed now, but we only have one bedroom on our main floor and then the rest of the bedrooms are upstairs. So he's still on the main floor, so he's just out in our sitting room, type thing. Well, several times we tried to put him down and then he'd get up, walk into our room because we're folding clothes or doing whatever in our room page and I and he just walks in. And he was just wired. Last night he did it again. He only did it once last night, but he walked in and he just screamed through his arms up big and wide. He's like here I am, and it's just like oh, my goodness, I couldn't help but, laugh.

Speaker 1:

He's so funny when he was at our house on Saturday. He's kind of leery of Uncle Don, yet Like he likes him, he doesn't like him, he's not sure. And Don, of course you know, when they're a little like that and they walk really fast, they walk like a ring of tangs, I don't know something. He was coming out of the bathroom and and everyone was on the floor and he was walking to be in, don made some really loud tapping noises and boy did he he put his arms up.

Speaker 1:

He's got his belly. Oh, I tell you what we crack up so much when they're, when they're a little like that run with their big bellies, but they were good as gold on Saturday, like the Saturday that I watched them, they were not good as gold, but this time they were really good. I was. I had such a good time with them. So, anyhow, hard times out. All right. There's our Ephraim stories, but that's why Mitchell stopped writing, and so now Ephraim's in his own bed and then he's going to go upstairs soon and he's going to be able to sleep with his brothers and Mitchell's gonna have lots of time to start writing again.

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Theoretically.

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Have a blessed day everybody.

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