Trust and Timing in the Tapestry of Life

Speaker 1: 0:37

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Pure Faith Podcast, a podcast where we discuss, I feel enlightened notification icon to be notified when new episodes are released. No, you do not need to change your sound and I have not smoked a pack of cigarettes today.

Speaker 2: 0:51

Are you sure?

Speaker 1: 0:54

I don't get sick very often, but boy.

Speaker 2: 0:58

You're always making fun of me because I'm the sick one.

Speaker 1: 1:01

Always you and your family. I don't know. It's been a few days now and it's run pretty much through our family. Luckily Noah said he's in Mississippi so he can't get it. Yeah, I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's allergies. I cannot breathe, I cannot talk. I got a cough Hasn't stopped me from talking. Allergies, but I cannot breathe, I cannot talk.

Speaker 1: 1:25

I gotta cough hasn't stopped me from talking obviously I've been taking naps whoa old age is creeping in wait, I've been drinking my coffee with my caffeine in it and still taking naps oh my gosh. So yeah, so this is what I have. So you'll have to excuse me if I step away, if I have to blow my nose or if I start coughing. I apologize.

Speaker 2: 1:56

We can edit it out. Just give me a warning.

Speaker 1: 2:00

Try Three, two, one.

Speaker 2: 2:04

Because it's easier to edit if there's like a pause yeah, and you do it because then there's like a good spot for me, like oh, cut right there right but when I'm in mid-sentence and you do it, that's like yeah, so today was the day that um mom was supposed to have her procedure done.

Speaker 1: 2:20

She's supposed to have a tumor removed out of her salivary gland.

Speaker 1: 2:23

Thank you. And that got canceled. So mom was running a very, very low grade fever very low to the point as I don't even think it's considered a fever but she had an elevated pulse or heart rate. So you know, she was very discouraged by a lot of it, um, because she has had a lot of dryness and she can't she can't swallow real well right now. So she was very discouraged about it.

Speaker 1: 2:50

But you sent a very good message. Um, you know, and we all know this, whatever happens is God's plan. It's not for us to know. You know why things happen, but, um, I had shared with you guys at Easter which I think was the first time I shared with you guys on really how tedious this procedure is. You know, one wrong move with the blade, if they nick a nerve in mom's neck, she could lose the whole functioning side of her, one side of her face. And you know, the message that you sent today really enlightened that that.

Speaker 1: 3:25

You know, maybe it wasn't mom having this very, very low grade fever or having, you know, this elevated pulse, where you know, if you go in for a surgery, I think you're going to have a little bit of an elevated pulse. I mean, that's just me thinking that. But you know, maybe he just didn't have a steady hand and you know it wasn't the day that it was supposed to be done. So I appreciate you sending that, because I was with mom and I know how upset she was that she was not getting this done, because she really she was at peace with all of it. But she just wants it done. She doesn't want to talk about it anymore. She wants it done, she wants it out of her.

Speaker 2: 4:01

Which I know where she's at. Yeah, and because you know, I was in that same position, just like whenever they told me I might not be able to have my surgery.

Speaker 1: 4:12

That is right, covid. That is right, yes.

Speaker 2: 4:15

I tested positive for COVID. It is right. I had symptoms, I had to go all the way back to Dayton to get retested yes, and not knowing whether. Back to Dayton to get retested yes, and not knowing whether, you know, I was going to be able to have the test or have the surgery or and knowing that this is growing inside of you every day.

Speaker 2: 4:32

So I mean, granted, my surgery did go on. Yeah, my second COVID test came back negative and so they were able to go through with the surgery. But I was still in that same mindset, at least for that same short period of time, right? So I kind of had an idea of where her mind's at. Yes, you just want that, even though herds isn't cancer. But you want that cancer, you want that tumor, you want that abnormality out of your body, right?

Speaker 2: 5:01

that abnormality out of your body Right, because the longer it's there, the greater the potential for something bad coming from it.

Speaker 1: 5:10

Exactly, exactly right.

Speaker 2: 5:12

So you know, I I kind of understood that. But like I think we talked on here, whenever I had that first um positive COVID test, yes, um, you were thinking you know the devil was attacking him. I'm like, well, maybe I mean I look at things like I said, then I'll say it again. I think a lot of us give the devil too much credit.

Speaker 1: 5:37

Yes.

Speaker 2: 5:38

But I think the Lord can use something like that for his plans, like, like I said, maybe the doctor was going to have a bad day.

Speaker 1: 5:50

Right.

Speaker 2: 5:51

And therefore the Lord is just saying okay, you're going to have a low grade fever and everybody's going to decide that they're not going to get through with the surgery, but it's not because of mom. Right, you mom, he's going to keep things the way he needs them.

Speaker 1: 6:09

Right, and in all honesty too. So mom's surgery was supposed to be at 1125. They called the day before and moved it to 1005. So there was already something that had changed in this doctor's schedule too, and it wasn't the anesthesiologist either. So the anesthesiologist was going to go ahead and start. Mom the doctor is the one who came in and said we can't do this today. So again there's something. There was just something more that was there that you know. It just wasn't her day. And again we're driving home. Scars in heaven. Comes on, mom goes. I was supposed to be here at this time to hear this song. Dad's telling me that this was not the day. You know she sees, she sees answers and so much more, but that initial, let me tell you, she was a hot hornet when she came out of there.

Speaker 2: 7:02

I believe it.

Speaker 1: 7:03

Well, I guess they're not doing the surgery today. I was like, okay, good, because I don't feel well and I just want to go home. And she did feel bad, I mean, I think she was just she wasn't able to take her allergy medicine for a week, and you know it's peak allergy season time too, and you know it's peak allergy season time too, and you know, I think between that and just you know, doing the running, you know our uncle Jerry had hip surgery. Mom was running after him and helping him too, and I think sometimes she just she wears herself down too much.

Speaker 1: 7:38

You know mom's a people person, she, she, she's a caretaker that, by by nature, that's what God created her to do. And you know she's so busy helping everybody else, caring for everybody else, that you know. I think that this was her time too. Maybe the Lord just said you just need to take some time and rest before all of this. So yeah, I don't know, but I can tell you it is rescheduled a couple weeks so we'll go through it again. We just won't have to get up so early next time. It was an early morning, I believe it.

Speaker 2: 8:12

How many years leave this morning.

Speaker 1: 8:14

I left at 620, which I mean, isn't it's not early for most people. I mean, you know Don hits the road for Dayton about that same time, you know, but for me, I also know what he deals with. For Dayton traffic Rush hour going into Dayton is that time, you know. And I prayed this morning because the last time mom and I went we really hit some traffic. And I was driving this time and I was just like Lord, please give us good roadways today, good flowing traffic, no crazy drivers Like I. Just I wanted a peaceful drive there too because you know, I was driving, I didn't need mom's blood pressure to go through the roof with me driving. But yeah, so we, we have it rescheduled and we'll, we'll take two. Well, heck, we'll take three if we have to like. Whatever it is, yeah, we just roll with it.

Speaker 2: 9:05

So and I was like my morning prayer when I was praying for it. Um, you know, you pray for the normal stuff. Pray for for mom, for for health wellbeing, that everything goes well for the doctor, for the nurses.

Speaker 1: 9:17

Yep, but I always pray for God's will to be done Right?

Speaker 2: 9:19

You know I always pray for God's will to be done.

Speaker 1: 9:22

Right.

Speaker 2: 9:23

You know, we don't know what God's intention is Right Through all this, and I prayed the same thing through my cancer, right Through all that. That you know, in the end God's will be done, even if that meant my death, right, which it still could, because I'm not actually clear of cancer yet. Right, right, I mean I'm okay with that. If that is his will, if that is what his intention is for me in my life, fine, I don't care. But we know, I mean the Bible tells us, whatever we ask for, we can expect to receive that. So I'm praying for God's will to be done, to receive that. So you know, I'm praying for God's will to be done.

Speaker 2: 10:10

So that puts me in the mindset that no matter what happens, that's God's will acting out. So you're saying, oh, mom had a slight fever and they postponed the surgery. That's God's will. Why, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 10:23

We don't know.

Speaker 2: 10:24

Right, I mean you could play that, what if game, or or that game all day.

Speaker 1: 10:30

Every day for now and then, right, right.

Speaker 2: 10:32

And just come up with scenario after scenario. Chances are we don't know and it's not for us to know, right? So we just have to trust that God's plan is in the works. I mean that's what we're praying for for God's will to be done. So we just have to trust that whatever's happening is God's will. I mean we've been talking about faith.

Speaker 1: 10:53

I mean that's basically what faith is.

Speaker 2: 10:55

Faith is believing without seeing. And we pray that God's will is for God's will to be done, so we have to have faith that whatever happens, that is God's will.

Speaker 1: 11:08

Yes.

Speaker 2: 11:09

So we just have to have the faith to follow the path that he puts before us. Right, and paths aren't always straight.

Speaker 1: 11:17

Right. They're not straight, and I mean they're, they're just. We have no control over any of it and that, and I think that's what a lot of people they have a hard time remembering that you know, yes, you have a plan and you want to be in control, but you are so far from being in control of all of this.

Speaker 2: 11:35

Yes.

Speaker 1: 11:36

Like you said, be faithful in all of it. And I think, too, you know you talking about that, how you pray and how you sing for God's will to be done. I know mom has made that comment a couple of times now. She's like, oh, I pray that God's will be done. So I know she's hearing you also saying that and she's understanding it. She's understanding that you know it's all out of our hands. His will will be done, whether it be, you know, surviving all of this or meeting her creator and going to heaven. You know that's his will, regardless of timeframe and everything else. So, yeah, and there could have been an emergency today that we didn't know. There could have been somebody who came in with a life-threatening accident today to the hospital that needed a face reconstruction. Ent stat at 1205. And he was going to be in surgery with mom. I mean, you have no idea what happened today. You have no idea what happened.

Speaker 2: 12:28

That's why you have to trust. That's why you have to trust that God's will, God's plan is working.

Speaker 1: 12:36

Right, and you can be as mean as a hornet you really can but then you have to, like, give it over, but like, sorry Lord, I apologize for the way I acted. I understand this is your will, this is what's supposed to be happening.

Speaker 2: 12:48

I apologize that and that is very true. That's that's gonna happen it's gonna happen I mean, sometimes I blow my stack too, and it's like lord, forgive me, just gotta step. Remember where you're at, what's going on? Yes, ray.

Speaker 1: 13:08

Yes, yeah, so yeah. So we're in a good place. We're in a good place. We'll, we'll take two, like I said, and we will, we'll do it again and and I'll feel better, hopefully by then.

Speaker 2: 13:26

I probably feel lousy by then.

Speaker 1: 13:29

I don't know, we'll see, so All right, we have a. Bible study.

Speaker 2: 13:35

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:35

I know you didn't prepare. I'm just glad he doesn't have the same outfit on for the third week in a row.

Speaker 2: 13:41

It was not the exact same outfit, it was the same coat, it was the same bibs.

Speaker 1: 13:45

It was the same coat. It was the same bibs it was the same coat?

Speaker 2: 13:48

No, I have three pairs of brown bibs.

Speaker 1: 13:52

So you say, but nobody would ever know the difference.

Speaker 2: 13:54

Well, I have, because they're different colors. I have two, I forget what they call it. Two are like a dark brown.

Speaker 1: 14:04

Oh yes.

Speaker 2: 14:04

And then one of them they call it like duck bill, which is a lighter tan. Oh yeah, I might have two pairs of those. I have a lot of bibs. Yeah, by the way, I have a lot of stretch pants.

Speaker 1: 14:18

We're in the same boat. I have a lot of stretch pants, see, I might. I have no lot of stretchy pants, see, I have my.

Speaker 2: 14:25

I have no, no button. I have built-in suspenders with stretch. Yeah, yeah, but I'm extra big and baggy, so it doesn't matter, because they're hanging off my shoulders.

Speaker 1: 14:33

Right, yep, I hear you. I can tell you what. Shopping with Olivia, mom, sadie and Jayden on Friday and we went to Meyers and I saw these really cute bevs and I just had to have them. I did. I didn't buy them, but I went right up to them. I'm like, oh my gosh, I need these bevs. These are so cute and they're not like yours, they're stylish.

Speaker 2: 15:00

Well, I'm told, this is in style nowadays, is it? That's what I'm told.

Speaker 1: 15:09

I? I'm told this is in style nowadays, is it? I don't know, maybe for a train conductor.

Speaker 2: 15:12

I do have a pair of those too.

Speaker 1: 15:14

The ones that are striped.

Speaker 2: 15:16

I don't wear them on here typically I may have in the past. I think it affects the camera a little bit.

Speaker 1: 15:24

No, say what you want I still wear them.

Speaker 2: 15:29

They're actually getting wore out, so I don't wear them as much as I used to nice, all of your boys have bibs too they do and your wife.

Speaker 1: 15:38

You guys could do a family photo of y'all with bibs we could.

Speaker 2: 15:42

I tried to talk Zeke and Eli into wearing their bibs at church a few weeks ago, and I was going to wear a pair of bibs and we're going to wear bibs at church. And they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1: 15:54

Why? I don't know, that's weird I don't know. That really surprises, me. Hmm, yeah, they're too cute. They are cute.

Speaker 2: 16:06

I know my bibs are cute.

Speaker 1: 16:07

I know your boys are cute and my bibs whatever whatever what are we talking about today? The bible? Oh my gosh, I didn't start my timer that's right alright you got eyes on there sure let me sniff so.

Speaker 2: 16:21

I showed you sniffle, but I edited it out, so you didn't hear it. Thank goodness, or I might not.

Speaker 1: 16:28

I don't know, we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2: 16:32

All right. So we are in Hebrews 11, 13 through 16. And this is almost kind of like a break. These are almost like a transition verses um, because up to this point you know we've covered, you know, sarah, abraham, noah, enoch, um, yeah, yeah, and now this is kind of like a little bit of a break or, like I said, a transition. But then it's going back into Abraham and then continuing on from there. So we're just going to read these and kind of see what they say, okay. So verse 13 reads these all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. For people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland. If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return, but as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore, god is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.

Speaker 1: 18:04

Some passages of the Bible. Just they confuse me.

Speaker 2: 18:10

Well, part of it is because I use the ESV and so it's more of a word for word, so it can be a little, but like if you read NIV, nlt, some of those other, they're easier to read.

Speaker 1: 18:27

They're easier to read.

Speaker 2: 18:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:28

They're easier to grasp.

Speaker 2: 18:30

Yeah, because they're more of a thought for thought.

Speaker 1: 18:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:33

NIV is kind of like a middle ground. Nlt is truly a thought for thought, so it just flows better.

Speaker 1: 18:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:39

Where ESV, it doesn't flow as well. It doesn't flow as well, but the words that they use and the way it's worded you can get a better understanding of what's trying to be said, and that's why I use the ESV.

Speaker 1: 18:53

That's why you do the Bible study Sure, and then you read that, and then you explain it to us.

Speaker 2: 18:57

Okay, so the first thing we're going to talk about is the fact that these all died in faith. Who's these? Well, these would be all the ones mentioned beforehand.

Speaker 1: 19:11

Okay.

Speaker 2: 19:12

So up to this point, which again, like I said, this kind of splitting in Abraham's when we mentioned again, but for the most part, you know, up to this point it's talking about all of those that we've mentioned so far. So I think this is like episode 14 or something of this series, of this Hebrew series.

Speaker 2: 19:36

So everybody we've talked to up to this point that's these, yes, and they all died in faith, yep, but notice they died in faith, yep, but notice they died in faith. Now, if we go back and actually look at that, it was everything was done by faith, by faith. Abraham did this by faith. Sarah did this by faith, noah did this by faith. You know, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1: 19:59

Right.

Speaker 2: 20:00

Everybody was by faith.

Speaker 1: 20:01

Right.

Speaker 2: 20:02

But now they die in faith, right.

Speaker 1: 20:04

So there die in faith, right.

Speaker 2: 20:06

So there's a little bit of a different wording.

Speaker 1: 20:09

There is.

Speaker 2: 20:10

So, but does it?

Speaker 1: 20:12

mean because they were faithful.

Speaker 2: 20:14

Basically. Yes, Okay, I mean the simple.

Speaker 1: 20:18

I mean.

Speaker 2: 20:18

That's what I would think the simple breakdown of it would be that Okay, because when you are living like we were talking with mom and everything's happened, we have to live by faith.

Speaker 1: 20:28

Right.

Speaker 2: 20:28

So we don't know exactly where we're going.

Speaker 1: 20:32

Right.

Speaker 2: 20:33

Now those mentioned in Hebrews before this. They lived in a time where they had the privilege of getting word directly from God. So they're getting their promises directly from God, Like, hey, this is the plan. Well, we don't have that anymore. So God's telling those from Hebrews that we've covered so far. This is your plan, this is what you need to do and, by faith, they followed that plan.

Speaker 1: 21:04

Right.

Speaker 2: 21:10

For us, today, the only promises that we get from God are promises that we read in the Bible, right, yeah? So all the promises mentioned, even to, to these characters we've already covered and those we will cover, all the promises in the Bible, those promises can also be applied to us. So you know, the one that I always bring up was Jeremiah 29, 11, for I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to forsake you. I mean, that is a very common one, a lot of people know. So I use that one a lot, especially when talking about this, because it's kind of easy. So we know that God has plans to prosper us. So we know this path, even though we don't know where this path is going. We don't know where it's going to end. And again, right now we're, we got mom in mind, right, right, for us, we have our mom in mind. We don't know where her path is headed.

Speaker 1: 22:06

Right.

Speaker 2: 22:07

We don't have the privilege of God telling us hey, I know this is going on, this is the direction you need to go, and this is going to be the outcome.

Speaker 2: 22:18

We don't have that, so we have to just walk by faith and trust, because faith is believing without seeing Right right. So we have to trust in God and trust that we are doing and that he is providing for us what we need when we need it along that path. But then, for those who have these that have died, so those that we have covered up to this point, they knew what that ending was. God told them.

Speaker 1: 22:50

You know like he didn't tell when.

Speaker 2: 22:55

He didn't tell when.

Speaker 1: 22:55

But he told what was going to happen.

Speaker 2: 22:57

Yes.

Speaker 1: 22:58

You're going to build a boat and then I'm going to send down the rains. You know I'm going to bless you with a child, so you have. You know I'm going to bless you with a child, so you, you have.

Speaker 2: 23:05

you know your offspring is many of the stores, yeah.

Speaker 1: 23:09

Yeah, so I mean they, they, they know what the outcome is. Like you said, we don't know, we don't have that final answer, we they didn't have a timeline. We don't have a timeline, but we don't know what that end result is but they knew what the end result was right right so by them dying in faith.

Speaker 2: 23:28

That's just the fact that they still had that faith yeah they were still on that path, even though they were dying, and I didn't cover this, but you know especially, for, like Abraham, whenever he died, he passed the blessing on Back then the father, whenever they died, they would give blessings to their sons based on, you know, when they were born.

Speaker 1: 23:55

Right.

Speaker 2: 23:56

And you know, we see that if you read through Genesis.

Speaker 1: 24:00

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:02

You see that happening. So you know they're giving blessings. Well, these blessings are based on the promises given to them by God for the future, and these promises are hey, this is what's going to happen, Even when oh, let me get the right one here I don't know if it was Israel, I think it was Israel, so Jacob. So whenever he died, he told one of his sons I'm sorry, my, I didn't read this, I'm going off memory. I mean, I have read it in the past, leading up to today. He didn't do a refresher course.

Speaker 1: 24:47

Yeah, I didn read it in the past, leading up to today.

Speaker 2: 24:48

He didn't do a refresher course.

Speaker 1: 24:49

Yeah, I didn't do a refresher.

Speaker 2: 24:50

But he told one of his sons when you leave this land, take my bones with you and take them back to be buried with our ancestors. Our ancestors, because whenever Abraham first came to the promised land before it was the promised land they didn't have any land. So when Sarah died, abraham went and bought a field off of the local population so he had land to basically have as a funeral burial site and Sarah was buried there. Abraham was buried there. I think Isaac and his wife were buried there. And then Jacob went to Egypt and died in Egypt.

Speaker 2: 25:45

And that's when he told his sons take me back. Whenever you go back to the promised land, take me with you and put my bones in with the rest of our patriarchs. So this is a promise, yeah, that he was predicting the future. He was living his life based off the fact that he knew that they were going back to the promised land, because it was a promise given to them by God. So he was acting out. Even at his death he was saying hey, when you go back to the promised land like I know you're going to, because it's what God promised take my bones back and bury me with my followers. So that is dying in faith. Having just knowing that, you know I didn't reach that finish line.

Speaker 1: 26:38

Right.

Speaker 2: 26:38

But I am a step in that path, right? So when you get to that finish line, you know, take me there with you, type thing. So that is dying in faith. I didn't expect to talk that much, just on that.

Speaker 1: 26:55

You didn't.

Speaker 2: 26:56

No, I didn't Time out. So continuing on. Again, these all died in faith, not having received the things promised. Again, we kind of hit that pretty hard, so I'm going to skip over that. But having seen them and greeted them from afar, that's one right, along with what we were just saying, yep yep. And having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth, I kind of want to hit on this a little bit, okay, because I kind exiles on the earth, I kind of want to hit on this a little bit Okay.

Speaker 2: 27:25

Because I kind of checked on the strangers, like where the strangers were, you know where else. That is used in the Bible and most of the time when strangers is used in other places it is paired with sojourning. So basically what this is saying is that they acknowledge the fact that they were sojourning. Yes, abraham was sojourning, and if you don't know what sojourning is, it's basically being um. So we're Americans. Let's say we go to Israel to live in Israel as American citizens or somebody from some other country comes and lives in the US legally I guess it really doesn't matter if it's legal or not Then they are sojourning in the US. Their nationality is somewhere else, but you're not living in the country of your nationality.

Speaker 1: 28:25

Okay.

Speaker 2: 28:25

So that's basically what sojourning is. So this is saying that they realized they were strangers and exiles on this earth. Well again, that's commonly compared to sojourning. So they were sojourning on this earth. So what does this mean? I mean, what are they trying to say here? This is just a way of saying that they were living in this world.

Speaker 1: 28:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:54

They were living on this earth.

Speaker 1: 28:56

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:57

But they were not part of this world, they were not part of the earth, and we all need to look at that in the same way, because, as Christians, we may live in this world, but this world is governed by the devil. I mean, the devil is the prince of this world. So we are in this world, we are surrounded by a world that is controlled by the devil, but we are not to be a part of that world. We are to be outside of that. We're supposed to stand out, we're supposed to be lights, we're supposed to be a beacon for for others to come to the light, and that light is Jesus Christ. So that's what this is referencing to, that we are citizens of heaven that are here on earth, living on earth temporarily, as sojourners. So I thought that was really, really cool and important. We're almost out of time. I want to get through this, though.

Speaker 2: 30:08

So from this point on, there's a lot of talk of a land. So verse 14, for people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland yeah, if they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return. So for me, the best example, biblical example that I just came to, and we've been talking about Abraham a lot We've been talking about. I kind of went last week I think I did the whole 400, some years from the promise of Abraham's descendants to the time they actually got to the promised land After Moses got the Israelites out of Egypt and they had to go spend the 40 years in the desert. Well, the Israelites during that time, multiple times you hear them saying why did you bring us out of Egypt? Why did you bring us out here to die? Yeah, we had it better back in Egypt. We should just go back to egypt and and yeah, we traveled out.

Speaker 1: 31:29

You brought us out here to starve. Yeah, just all kinds of things.

Speaker 2: 31:32

and they kept talking about wanting to go back to egypt and, for me, that whole concept of them wanting to go back to where they came from, even though they were under tyranny, they were basically imprisoned, they were slaves, but they wanted to go back to that lifestyle where they were being beaten and punished when ahead of them was a greater future.

Speaker 1: 32:05

They couldn't see it. They couldn't grasp the concept, yes, when ahead of them was a greater future, but I mean they couldn't grasp the concept, they couldn't be.

Speaker 2: 32:11

And that is a a great metaphor for this world. I mean a lot of people. They are stuck in in life, that is, with a lot of pain and suffering, and they're chasing the things of this world trying to find a solution, trying to find something to relieve the stress, something to help alleviate their anxiety or whatever may be going on in their lives. But they're trying to do it through worldly things Right. But everything that is worldly is evil, it's of the devil. So it isn't until you realize you see the light and you realize that there is a better future.

Speaker 1: 33:03

Right.

Speaker 2: 33:04

An eternal future. An eternal future, a heavenly future. Once you get on that mindset and you start looking that direction, instead of trying to find your your comfort in the world, you find your comfort in God. That is when things really start to come around. I'm not saying that life's going to be easy when you are a Christian, Right. I mean you shared last week a brief summary of our past five years and all the things we've gone through, Right. Life's not easy as a Christian, Nope, but you use those hardships to develop a closer and better relationship with the Lord and and you move on from it.

Speaker 1: 33:47

Yeah. Um yeah, no exactly. Um, you know there's. It's been said in the Bible too that the journey is not easy, but he will not leave us, he will not forsake us. He will show us the way. You just have to be faithful in all of it.

Speaker 2: 34:05

Yes, so if you are stuck in chasing things of the world, trying to find some sort of relief from the stresses of the world, you're not going to find the answer in other worldly things. You need to develop a relationship with God. You need to accept Jesus Christ into your life, into your heart, get baptized, yep, and live a life in Christ.

Speaker 1: 34:37

Yeah, this is the temporary hold.

Speaker 2: 34:39

Yes, so quit looking at the land that you came from and look towards the land that you're going to yes, so quit looking at the land that you came from and look towards the land that you're going to. Yes, which is in heaven?

Speaker 1: 34:50

Yes. Our promised land.

Speaker 2: 34:53

Yep, verse 16. But, as it is, they desire a better country, that is a heavenly one, uh-huh. Therefore, god is not ashamed to be called their god, for he has prepared for them a city. And again this, the city is, like you said, the our, our, how'd you say it?

Speaker 2: 35:15

our promised land our promise yes, so our promised land is in heaven. Yes, um, heaven will come down to earth. Heaven, yes, um heaven will come down to earth. And I actually heard today on one of my podcasts that I was listening to um, I never put this whole concept into like perspective. But the new, the new earth, the new heaven on on earth, it's a city. It gives the dimensions.

Speaker 1: 35:46

Okay.

Speaker 2: 35:47

Well, I never really paid much attention to it, but I listened to somebody today and I don't know if this is 100% true because I haven't looked it up but they said that the city that is described will be equivalent to half of the US. That's the size of the city. Would be half of the US. Interesting, that is a big city. Yeah, it's one big city. That is one big city. I don't know if that's true. Look it up, look it up. I don't. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I think we're done.

Speaker 1: 36:26

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Speaker 2: 36:46

Have a blessed day everybody.